Ning- - Classroom 2.02024-03-29T00:25:02Zhttps://www.classroom20.com/forum/topics/649749:Topic:122689?x=1&id=649749%3ATopic%3A122689&feed=yes&xn_auth=noDon't hold your breath for a…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-07-10:649749:Comment:3623062009-07-10T14:15:30.574ZSteve O'Connorhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/SteveOConnor
Don't hold your breath for a "Ninglette." The problem is not whether the "Ning" is public or private, it's about collecting personal data on children under 13. To comply with the law, they would have to get verifiable parental consent and keep it on file. I very much doubt that they want to expend resources on such and expose themselves to such scrutiny. Even for kids 13 and over, I don't think we can ethically require students to provide their personal information to a private commercial…
Don't hold your breath for a "Ninglette." The problem is not whether the "Ning" is public or private, it's about collecting personal data on children under 13. To comply with the law, they would have to get verifiable parental consent and keep it on file. I very much doubt that they want to expend resources on such and expose themselves to such scrutiny. Even for kids 13 and over, I don't think we can ethically require students to provide their personal information to a private commercial entity.<br />
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Solutions exist for nearly no money that require nearly no expertise. I am puzzled by the tendency to expect a free solution delivered into one's lap.<br />
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I know "discussion forums" are not considered a cool "web 2.0" tool, but they really are and have been important social web tools for well over a decade. They are free, robust, and very easily configured. The only expense is a web server which many schools already have. Failing that, webhosting can be had for very little money. In fact some will give you as an educator a small piece of server real estate for free. All you have to do is install the software which is as easy as setting up a Ning account. From there, you set up your forums and permissions.<br />
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Don't hope! Don't wish! Go out and do something! It is not onerous. Hi, Marcia!
I'm always trying…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-07-10:649749:Comment:3622802009-07-10T13:22:22.695ZMarcela Summervillehttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/MarcelaSummerville
Hi, Marcia!<br />
I'm always trying to introduce new tools to keep children motivated and able to develop more language, since I teach Spanish to very young ones. Sometimes I find quite difficult to use certain tools, I thought ning will be great, but too many risks, so I am keeping it simple with a normal forum :)<br />
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Hi, Marcia!<br />
I'm always trying to introduce new tools to keep children motivated and able to develop more language, since I teach Spanish to very young ones. Sometimes I find quite difficult to use certain tools, I thought ning will be great, but too many risks, so I am keeping it simple with a normal forum :)<br />
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Thanks! I agree, after reading and se…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-07-10:649749:Comment:3622762009-07-10T13:12:41.111ZMarcela Summervillehttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/MarcelaSummerville
I agree, after reading and searching I decided to go old fashion, using and internal forum where children can write and it is not public.
I agree, after reading and searching I decided to go old fashion, using and internal forum where children can write and it is not public. I did! I am using a basic for…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-07-10:649749:Comment:3622752009-07-10T13:11:36.031ZMarcela Summervillehttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/MarcelaSummerville
I did! I am using a basic forum with my young students. It is not perfect but worked very well.
I did! I am using a basic forum with my young students. It is not perfect but worked very well. Hi, Marcela,
This is a freque…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-07-10:649749:Comment:3622112009-07-10T03:38:41.637ZMarcia Bengry Alessihttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/MarciaBengryAlessi
Hi, Marcela,<br />
This is a frequent request. And Steve never tires of answering it :) .... I had the same question not so long ago when I was doing a flat classroom project. I teach middle school and so had mostly under 13eens. Although NIng is still blocked at my school, my hope is to get it unblocked for specific projects. And then the 13s will participate and the younger students will "watch" the participation, like I will be watching and supervising as a "teacher." This will give me a chance to…
Hi, Marcela,<br />
This is a frequent request. And Steve never tires of answering it :) .... I had the same question not so long ago when I was doing a flat classroom project. I teach middle school and so had mostly under 13eens. Although NIng is still blocked at my school, my hope is to get it unblocked for specific projects. And then the 13s will participate and the younger students will "watch" the participation, like I will be watching and supervising as a "teacher." This will give me a chance to prepare them for when they can fully participate at 13. I am hoping that in the mean time, someone, Ning or otherwise, will create a "ninglette" model where kids can participate in the experience without going "public."<br />
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Good luck! Steve, dittotag:www.classroom20.com,2009-07-10:649749:Comment:3622022009-07-10T02:48:48.660ZNancy Boschhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/nbosch
Steve, ditto
Steve, ditto Marcela, it is so important t…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-07-10:649749:Comment:3622012009-07-10T02:48:10.883ZNancy Boschhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/nbosch
Marcela, it is so important to have good solid reasons to use any tool, tech or not. Ning doesn't do anything that can't be done with a blog and Moodle. It's our job to provide the instruction, guidance, but most importantly keep the kids safe and legal.
Marcela, it is so important to have good solid reasons to use any tool, tech or not. Ning doesn't do anything that can't be done with a blog and Moodle. It's our job to provide the instruction, guidance, but most importantly keep the kids safe and legal. Why not create a discussion f…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-07-10:649749:Comment:3621482009-07-10T01:24:05.451ZSteve O'Connorhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/SteveOConnor
Why not create a discussion forum on an in house sever or on an inexpensive web hosting account? Ning is nothing new or magic.
Why not create a discussion forum on an in house sever or on an inexpensive web hosting account? Ning is nothing new or magic. Wow! Directing students to fa…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-07-10:649749:Comment:3621442009-07-10T01:19:21.981ZSteve O'Connorhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/SteveOConnor
Wow! Directing students to falsify records to circumvent laws.<br />
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Is this the right thing to teach our students?<br />
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There are ways to do this without resorting to such.
Wow! Directing students to falsify records to circumvent laws.<br />
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Is this the right thing to teach our students?<br />
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There are ways to do this without resorting to such. Nancy, you just pointed the r…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-07-10:649749:Comment:3621402009-07-10T01:17:37.834ZMarcela Summervillehttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/MarcelaSummerville
Nancy, you just pointed the reason why I can't use it with my students.They are really young (8 to 10 years old). I had to hold my ning idea. I wish I could, I think it is very useful tool, but the risks with younger students is really high. Marcela
Nancy, you just pointed the reason why I can't use it with my students.They are really young (8 to 10 years old). I had to hold my ning idea. I wish I could, I think it is very useful tool, but the risks with younger students is really high. Marcela