Student laptops in school - Classroom 2.02024-03-28T18:21:11Zhttps://www.classroom20.com/forum/topics/649749:Topic:175446?commentId=649749%3AComment%3A175661&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI'm in an odd place now. Afte…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-08-13:649749:Comment:1768492008-08-13T00:08:16.511ZNancy Boschhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/nbosch
I'm in an odd place now. After 25 years of using tech in the classroom, being a national and state presenter, grant writer, blogger, webpage designer, blah, blah, blah I'm a bit tired. I probably should just quit reading blogs, hanging around social networks, etc. I see so much emphasis on the stuff and so little emphasis on thinking, teaching and learning. In some ways I miss the old days....*grin*
I'm in an odd place now. After 25 years of using tech in the classroom, being a national and state presenter, grant writer, blogger, webpage designer, blah, blah, blah I'm a bit tired. I probably should just quit reading blogs, hanging around social networks, etc. I see so much emphasis on the stuff and so little emphasis on thinking, teaching and learning. In some ways I miss the old days....*grin* Or maybe because we have been…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-08-12:649749:Comment:1768242008-08-12T22:59:36.527ZPaul Andersonhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/PaulAnderson
Or maybe because we have been around a while, we tend to remember all the times that it didn't work out well, that we forget all the times it did. Most kids just haven't been around long enough to build up memories of when things didn't work as planned. Remember all the "stupid" things you did when you were a kid (I do), and I am amazed every time I think about my youth, that I am still alive today, to ponder my youth*LOL*. I think as they get older, they will probably be more like us now, and…
Or maybe because we have been around a while, we tend to remember all the times that it didn't work out well, that we forget all the times it did. Most kids just haven't been around long enough to build up memories of when things didn't work as planned. Remember all the "stupid" things you did when you were a kid (I do), and I am amazed every time I think about my youth, that I am still alive today, to ponder my youth*LOL*. I think as they get older, they will probably be more like us now, and less like they are now! Just like us! With age we grow wiser and maybe a little more intimidated by it all. Just a thought. *S* I do think kids (I teach K-6…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-08-12:649749:Comment:1768092008-08-12T22:44:46.174ZNancy Boschhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/nbosch
I do think kids (I teach K-6 gifted) are much bigger tech risk takers than most parents and teachers and they have a feel for technology that most adults don't have. I read in one of Dan Tapscott's books "technology is not technology unless it was invented after you were born". Stay with me here....<br />
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I heard yesterday that the Olympic sychronized divers start training at age 4 before they develop a fear of heights---that reminded me of kids and technology. All this stuff has been around since…
I do think kids (I teach K-6 gifted) are much bigger tech risk takers than most parents and teachers and they have a feel for technology that most adults don't have. I read in one of Dan Tapscott's books "technology is not technology unless it was invented after you were born". Stay with me here....<br />
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I heard yesterday that the Olympic sychronized divers start training at age 4 before they develop a fear of heights---that reminded me of kids and technology. All this stuff has been around since before our students were born, they have no fear but it doesn't mean they know how to do complexed and indepth things with computers. Very true! While a lot of the…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-08-12:649749:Comment:1768002008-08-12T22:19:15.759ZPaul Andersonhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/PaulAnderson
Very true! While a lot of the times they know more than their parents or teachers (no disrespect intended), that's not always very much. Much like a bank teller, who uses a computer all day long, doesn't nescessarily mean they actually know how to do much in anything outside the program that they use at work. I think most kids are a little better, just because they act like they know what they are doing (they don't hesitate and think too long, they just point and click*S*).
Very true! While a lot of the times they know more than their parents or teachers (no disrespect intended), that's not always very much. Much like a bank teller, who uses a computer all day long, doesn't nescessarily mean they actually know how to do much in anything outside the program that they use at work. I think most kids are a little better, just because they act like they know what they are doing (they don't hesitate and think too long, they just point and click*S*). IMHO, I think adults (includi…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-08-12:649749:Comment:1767962008-08-12T22:06:49.850ZNancy Boschhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/nbosch
IMHO, I think adults (including many teachers) grossly over estimate teens technology skills. Yes---kids can text, IM, chat, d/l songs, take pics with their phones, yippee.<br />
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Sure some kids are "computer guys" but assuming today's teens are tech literate is an overstatement.
IMHO, I think adults (including many teachers) grossly over estimate teens technology skills. Yes---kids can text, IM, chat, d/l songs, take pics with their phones, yippee.<br />
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Sure some kids are "computer guys" but assuming today's teens are tech literate is an overstatement. I think the problem goes beyo…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-08-12:649749:Comment:1766532008-08-12T17:04:04.365ZPaul Andersonhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/PaulAnderson
I think the problem goes beyond colleges encouraging their student to bring laptops to class and use them. They need to teach the future teachers how to actually use them in a teaching environment (or how they can be used). That is where almost all the colleges are falling short. Just because you use a computer while going to school, does not mean that you will know how to use them in a teaching environment (granted it helps).
I think the problem goes beyond colleges encouraging their student to bring laptops to class and use them. They need to teach the future teachers how to actually use them in a teaching environment (or how they can be used). That is where almost all the colleges are falling short. Just because you use a computer while going to school, does not mean that you will know how to use them in a teaching environment (granted it helps). My college professors didn't…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-08-12:649749:Comment:1764842008-08-12T12:51:53.095ZMarthahttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/Martha88
My college professors didn't care if I was taking notes or not. I was an adult and I was expected to care about my learning by that point. If I wasn't taking notes that was my problem come exam time.
My college professors didn't care if I was taking notes or not. I was an adult and I was expected to care about my learning by that point. If I wasn't taking notes that was my problem come exam time. You have read something into…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-08-12:649749:Comment:1763222008-08-12T03:09:36.400ZBonnie Ahleshttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/BonnieAhles
You have read something into my response that wasn't there. Our students have not gone back to paper and pencils or dredrafting by hand. They do not carry heavy textbooks as their work is online. They all carry 'devices', just not laptops. They access work digitally, submit work online, use a range of devices whilst they are at school. The point I was trying to make was that laptops are not the only devices available to provide the access and tools that 21st century learners need.<br />
I used to…
You have read something into my response that wasn't there. Our students have not gone back to paper and pencils or dredrafting by hand. They do not carry heavy textbooks as their work is online. They all carry 'devices', just not laptops. They access work digitally, submit work online, use a range of devices whilst they are at school. The point I was trying to make was that laptops are not the only devices available to provide the access and tools that 21st century learners need.<br />
I used to carry a laptop everyday but now I have a phone and 'netbook' that I can use to access my documents, create work, etc. I take my laptop when I need it. Your students don't want to c…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-08-12:649749:Comment:1763122008-08-12T02:49:43.608ZSarah Ritterhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/SarahRitter
Your students don't want to carry laptops? They would rather schlep forty pounds of books and kill trees while in school than k.i.s.s. and simply use a laptop. My kids wouldn't go back to paper, pencils and redrafting by hand. Would you? Tell 'em to try it, they'll like it.
Your students don't want to carry laptops? They would rather schlep forty pounds of books and kill trees while in school than k.i.s.s. and simply use a laptop. My kids wouldn't go back to paper, pencils and redrafting by hand. Would you? Tell 'em to try it, they'll like it. I have two children in colleg…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-08-12:649749:Comment:1763012008-08-12T02:30:49.691ZSarah Ritterhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/SarahRitter
I have two children in college and neither of them is encouraged to bring a laptop to class. My son was told by his history professor NOT to bring it because she didn't think he was really taking notes. Not only was he taking notes, but he was also checking the information she was referencing because he had not been a dedicated high school student and needed the background to better understand her lectures. He showed her all of this and she grudgingly gave in, but said she didn't want him to…
I have two children in college and neither of them is encouraged to bring a laptop to class. My son was told by his history professor NOT to bring it because she didn't think he was really taking notes. Not only was he taking notes, but he was also checking the information she was referencing because he had not been a dedicated high school student and needed the background to better understand her lectures. He showed her all of this and she grudgingly gave in, but said she didn't want him to set a precedence.<br />
I teach in a one-on-one middle school and can not imagine what the heck is going on. When I taught at Dartmouth in1985 to 1990, the students were required to obtain computers and, therefore, could put them on their loans if money was a problem. That was more than 20 years ago and there are still good colleges not encouraging computers in their classes?<br />
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I bought a laptop for my 10 year old son who is entering fifth grade. He has learning challenges that a computer helps to lessen. I told the principal that my son would be using a laptop and she agreed it would be helpful, but wished other children could obtain them since her school does not have the funding for anything more than a computer lab. Good thing we didn't have a pencil lab when I was a kid or no one would be writing or doing math!<br />
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The laptop I bought my little guy cost $225.00 on clearance. It is only an Acer, but certainly good enough for his needs.