Your Web 2.0 Review Series #2: Wiki Software and Services - Classroom 2.02024-03-28T15:46:58Zhttps://www.classroom20.com/forum/topics/649749:Topic:45481?commentId=649749%3AComment%3A45554&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI love using wikispaces. We h…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-11-03:649749:Comment:705292007-11-03T18:10:39.257ZRichard Smarthttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/RichardSmart
I love using wikispaces. We have been using it in my classroom since Thanksgiving 2006. It is easy to use, ad-free for educators and the support from Adam and his team is excellent.<br />
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It has been so useful that it is being used much more widely across our county. I honestly think that this is a gateway application for Web2.0.
I love using wikispaces. We have been using it in my classroom since Thanksgiving 2006. It is easy to use, ad-free for educators and the support from Adam and his team is excellent.<br />
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It has been so useful that it is being used much more widely across our county. I honestly think that this is a gateway application for Web2.0. I don't have any experience w…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-11-03:649749:Comment:704372007-11-03T14:33:12.972ZDaniel K. Schneiderhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/DanielKSchneider
I don't have any experience with wiki services (got our own servers). But from our experience (6 years or so) I think that wiki technology (any tech actually) is not innocent. Depending on what your aims are, different software ought to be considered.<br />
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- Embedded wikis in portals (either CMS or LMS): to support small writing activities at University level. Usually pages are not connected. E.g. Moodle+Erfurt, PostNuke+phpwiki, TikiWiki.<br />
- Wikiservers (like Swiki) for for primary schools. They…
I don't have any experience with wiki services (got our own servers). But from our experience (6 years or so) I think that wiki technology (any tech actually) is not innocent. Depending on what your aims are, different software ought to be considered.<br />
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- Embedded wikis in portals (either CMS or LMS): to support small writing activities at University level. Usually pages are not connected. E.g. Moodle+Erfurt, PostNuke+phpwiki, TikiWiki.<br />
- Wikiservers (like Swiki) for for primary schools. They just use it to make pages (mostly presentations / valorizations)<br />
- Mediawikis at both University and High School level: to support writing-to-learn activities. Usually, learners focus in small teams on writing just pages, but do have to connect to others and coordinate a bit. Also used for independant study projects. Students have to contribute to a theme of a wiki that is also used for other purposes (i.e. teaching materials, note taking for research etc.)<br />
- Other but simpler stand-alone wikis (same purpose as above)<br />
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What I found is that students and teachers take a long time to understand what hypertext is. Simple to use wikis if you have learners write / fill in pages in a "predefined space". Very hard to to make them understand that wikis are just collections of flat connected pages and that organization is an issue when you enter at some point into "knowledge community" designs etc. I did collaborate on wikis se…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-10-10:649749:Comment:570862007-10-10T12:23:56.312ZMarielle Langehttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/widged
I did collaborate on wikis set on pbwiki or wikispaces. I tend to prefer the ones with formatting conventions over the ones with a wysyg editor because they ensure better consistency in the look and feel of the page (wikispace more than than pbwiki). I like the possibility to add extra modules as well (chat, calendar, etc.)<br />
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Because I am familiar with webdevelopment (I put my first pages on the web in the mid 90s), I have a wiki on a personal hosting account. Not really relevant, in the context…
I did collaborate on wikis set on pbwiki or wikispaces. I tend to prefer the ones with formatting conventions over the ones with a wysyg editor because they ensure better consistency in the look and feel of the page (wikispace more than than pbwiki). I like the possibility to add extra modules as well (chat, calendar, etc.)<br />
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Because I am familiar with webdevelopment (I put my first pages on the web in the mid 90s), I have a wiki on a personal hosting account. Not really relevant, in the context of this discussion.<br />
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What is more relevant is that I have on that wiki nformation about <a href="http://www.widged.com/wiki/doku.php?id=en:environment:web:wiki:wiki&s=wikiwebs">wikis</a> and how to use them to <a href="http://www.widged.com/wiki/doku.php?id=en:academe:education:wiki-essay:wiki-essay">encourage collaborative learning</a>.<br />
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A resource particularly worth reading is <a href="http://guzdial.cc.gatech.edu/squeakers/coweb-catalog.pdf">A Catalog of CoWeb Uses</a> by Guzdial (2000). It provides a *very* long list of activities that can been run on a wiki. I use wikispaces. It is quite…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-10-06:649749:Comment:554932007-10-06T01:40:15.841ZJennifer Barnetthttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/JenniferBarnett
I use wikispaces. It is quite plain and I really like it that way. The no advertisements for educators reduces distractions for my students. They've updated embedding features and it's easier now. Templates are nice with pbwiki and that would be great if wikispaces could offer something similar. Other great wikispaces features: discussion page on each page created, easy editing, even the messaging system built in. What bothers me: the table feature isn't very easy to manipulate.<br />
I'm new to…
I use wikispaces. It is quite plain and I really like it that way. The no advertisements for educators reduces distractions for my students. They've updated embedding features and it's easier now. Templates are nice with pbwiki and that would be great if wikispaces could offer something similar. Other great wikispaces features: discussion page on each page created, easy editing, even the messaging system built in. What bothers me: the table feature isn't very easy to manipulate.<br />
I'm new to classroom2.0 and enjoying seeing inside so many classrooms through the forums, etc. on this ning. Thanks for the great network!<br />
Jennifer Barnett<br />
<a href="http://fhswolvesden.wikispaces.com">My class wiki</a> Michelle, I agree with you ab…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-10-04:649749:Comment:548302007-10-04T01:46:48.767ZCarolyn Footehttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/Technolibrary
Michelle, I agree with you about wetpaint. It has some really cool features that get around some of the problems people might have in the classroom using wikis.<br />
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I also prefer pbwiki to wikispaces--just seems easier to edit and format things, in my humble opinion ;) though I like wikispaces as well.<br />
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What I like most?? is just the ability of wikis to allow anyone to edit a webpage. It just allows us so much freedom to build sites, have collaborative discussions or planning, and create a shared…
Michelle, I agree with you about wetpaint. It has some really cool features that get around some of the problems people might have in the classroom using wikis.<br />
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I also prefer pbwiki to wikispaces--just seems easier to edit and format things, in my humble opinion ;) though I like wikispaces as well.<br />
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What I like most?? is just the ability of wikis to allow anyone to edit a webpage. It just allows us so much freedom to build sites, have collaborative discussions or planning, and create a shared document easily and quickly. Wikis rule! Hi Adam,
It's a bit off-topic…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-10-03:649749:Comment:547082007-10-03T14:51:16.473ZBarry Bakinhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/BarryBakin
Hi Adam,<br />
It's a bit off-topic but I put in a request for an ad-free wikispace and I got a nice note back from Sarah asking that I verify that the wiki will be used "exclusively" for k-12 education. Since I work with adult immigrant students I couldn't really do that and I didn't want to tell an untruth. Is there a particular reason that adult education providers are excluded from the ad-free wikispace program? Many of my students are parents of k-12 students, and in accord with recent trends to…
Hi Adam,<br />
It's a bit off-topic but I put in a request for an ad-free wikispace and I got a nice note back from Sarah asking that I verify that the wiki will be used "exclusively" for k-12 education. Since I work with adult immigrant students I couldn't really do that and I didn't want to tell an untruth. Is there a particular reason that adult education providers are excluded from the ad-free wikispace program? Many of my students are parents of k-12 students, and in accord with recent trends to encourage direct parent involvement in their children's education, I encourage parents to use the computer and Internet skills they obtain in my class when they're at home with their children, but I can't say that what I do is exclusively for k-12. Since you note on your page that "We didn't set out with a grand strategy, just an interest in helping teachers with our easy to use wiki technology" I'd like to suggest that adult education teachers be included in the free wikispace program as well. Used PBwiki as a digital subm…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-09-24:649749:Comment:520312007-09-24T09:27:50.858ZJason de Nyshttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/Jasondenys
Used PBwiki as a digital submission tool for a pretty standard <a href="http://www.designeranimals.pbwiki.com">science project</a>, didn't really explore the interactiveness fully other than by popping in a free forum for student questions, but it was as much a learning exercise for me. I like PBwiki for it's formatting options and for the helpful types in the forum. The WYSIWYG editor drives me nuts, cutting and pasting into it rarely works well. I upgraded for fun and the page level access is…
Used PBwiki as a digital submission tool for a pretty standard <a href="http://www.designeranimals.pbwiki.com">science project</a>, didn't really explore the interactiveness fully other than by popping in a free forum for student questions, but it was as much a learning exercise for me. I like PBwiki for it's formatting options and for the helpful types in the forum. The WYSIWYG editor drives me nuts, cutting and pasting into it rarely works well. I upgraded for fun and the page level access is great.<br />
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I am using wikispaces for a small <a href="http://bookybooky.wikispaces.com">book club</a> for colleagues just to try it out. I like its clean lines and the extra space you get there compared to PBwiki but it really needs more formatting options ...and then I tried Wetpaint.…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-09-08:649749:Comment:477922007-09-08T07:04:09.510Zpete whitfieldhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/pwhitfield
...and then I tried Wetpaint. It has a snazzy look, rather ning-ish, less formal than wikispaces. I tried to embed a ning photo slideshow and got an error message (wrong code), though a video did embed no problem. I then tried uploading an mp3 and found the maximum file size is 1mb. With wikispaces I think you can now upload (and embed) upto 10mb files (audio and video). And 2 gb of space for free.
...and then I tried Wetpaint. It has a snazzy look, rather ning-ish, less formal than wikispaces. I tried to embed a ning photo slideshow and got an error message (wrong code), though a video did embed no problem. I then tried uploading an mp3 and found the maximum file size is 1mb. With wikispaces I think you can now upload (and embed) upto 10mb files (audio and video). And 2 gb of space for free. Just checked the upload+and+e…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-09-07:649749:Comment:475152007-09-07T05:45:25.615Zpete whitfieldhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/pwhitfield
Just checked the upload+and+embed your own media tool now in wikispaces - that's the deal maker for me!<br />
It's currently well hidden in the editing interface - <a href="http://blog.wikispaces.com/2007/09/play-your-media-on-wikispaces.html">check the wikispaces blog for the how-to</a>.
Just checked the upload+and+embed your own media tool now in wikispaces - that's the deal maker for me!<br />
It's currently well hidden in the editing interface - <a href="http://blog.wikispaces.com/2007/09/play-your-media-on-wikispaces.html">check the wikispaces blog for the how-to</a>. Hi Adam, just thought I'd rem…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-09-05:649749:Comment:470782007-09-05T16:01:38.938ZSusanTsairihttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/tsairi
Hi Adam, just thought I'd remind you, Hebrew interface would make wikispaces accessible for so many elementary students and their teachers in Israel.
Hi Adam, just thought I'd remind you, Hebrew interface would make wikispaces accessible for so many elementary students and their teachers in Israel.