Can technological literacy be a facade? - Classroom 2.02024-03-29T13:25:25Zhttps://www.classroom20.com/forum/topics/649749:Topic:50025?commentId=649749%3AComment%3A53716&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI am really glad I stumbled o…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-09-30:649749:Comment:537162007-09-30T00:34:31.169ZEdith Kennedyhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/DREK2B
I am really glad I stumbled onto this discussion. Having just read through all the posts, I will try to comment on many of them.<br />
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First, employing technology in a meaningful way is time consuming. I use discussion boards and wikis in my classes. Now, in addition to reading essays and journals, I have to read the posts on these sites. There is a push in many schools to use more technology in the classroom, but this sometimes leads to those "obsolete methods" that are quick, easy and simple.…
I am really glad I stumbled onto this discussion. Having just read through all the posts, I will try to comment on many of them.<br />
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First, employing technology in a meaningful way is time consuming. I use discussion boards and wikis in my classes. Now, in addition to reading essays and journals, I have to read the posts on these sites. There is a push in many schools to use more technology in the classroom, but this sometimes leads to those "obsolete methods" that are quick, easy and simple. Unfortunately, the results are usually the same.<br />
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Second, even if the technologies we are using now are not around in the next ten years, we can certainly introduce our students to them (<i>IF</i> they are meaningful to the curriculum). This will make it easier for students to learn the new technologies when they emerge. Imagine learning to navigate this site if you didn't already have basic computer skills.<br />
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Third "Technology is not a panacea for all our teaching and learning issues." As I stated in another forum, technology will not make up for poor teaching. Before assigning any task, the teacher needs to make sure that there is a pedagogical reason for the assignment. Then he/she must make sure that the students understand this rationale.<br />
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Lastly, I totally agree that the technology must become transparent. The students should never be so bogged down by the technology that they cannot concentrate on the learning that should be taking place. I know this one from first hand experience. I designed an assignment for my students to transform a standard linear text essay into a hypertext document. Unfortunatley, I fell under the spell of the "tech guys" who were helping me design the technology teaching component. They suggested that instead of a simple hypertext, I assign a web page. This assignment turned into a nightmare because the students were so worried about mastering the creation of a web page that they were not focusing on the subject matter at hand. (What is important/vital enough in the essay to stay on the main page and what is peripheral enough to be linked.) But I digress... The technology was certainly NOT transparent.<br />
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Nowmy philosophy about technology in the classroom is that the use of it must somehow make the assignment BETTER, not just different. I must spend enough time introducing the technology (which should never be too difficult) so that it can be transparent. Keeping these thougts in mind keeps my students and me much happier and more focused on the topic. Ian and Patrick,
Interesting…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-09-24:649749:Comment:519712007-09-24T03:23:47.503ZCarolyn Footehttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/Technolibrary
Ian and Patrick,<br />
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Interesting points. I agree generally that students need help with information literacy, although I do think sometimes they are more savvy than we may think about information online.<br />
Sometimes more savvy than some of their teachers? But I don't think we ask enough of them--we don't ask for the depth of thinking that we should be, and that causes both students and us to settle. Joyce Valenza spoke about this at NECC.<br />
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I think the more experiences students have, the more savvy…
Ian and Patrick,<br />
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Interesting points. I agree generally that students need help with information literacy, although I do think sometimes they are more savvy than we may think about information online.<br />
Sometimes more savvy than some of their teachers? But I don't think we ask enough of them--we don't ask for the depth of thinking that we should be, and that causes both students and us to settle. Joyce Valenza spoke about this at NECC.<br />
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I think the more experiences students have, the more savvy they will become, so it's important for us to be there for that.<br />
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And I really agree about the idea of the technology melting away. For many kids it is transparent in ways it is not transparent to us. Fantastic questions, Brad. I…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-09-24:649749:Comment:519582007-09-24T03:03:51.128ZPatrick Higginshttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/pjhiggins
Fantastic questions, Brad. I am going to echo Ian and Edwin in that in order for any authentic learning to take place there can't be any barriers between the technology and the teaching. In a perfect situation, we would be focusing less on teaching with technology, but just teaching, and the technology would be considered just another strategy or delivery method. Looking at the signs and seeing progress from just last year to this year in the buildings I work in, I have to say that this is the…
Fantastic questions, Brad. I am going to echo Ian and Edwin in that in order for any authentic learning to take place there can't be any barriers between the technology and the teaching. In a perfect situation, we would be focusing less on teaching with technology, but just teaching, and the technology would be considered just another strategy or delivery method. Looking at the signs and seeing progress from just last year to this year in the buildings I work in, I have to say that this is the direction we are heading in as a profession.<br />
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I read Andrew Keen's <a href="http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780385520805">Cult of the Amateur</a> this summer, which I recommend to anyone, and he did more than just raise my hackles with the proclamations that the proliferation of blogging, one-click publication, and democratic content creation, a la <a href="http://wikipedia.org">wikipedia</a>, is the ruination of intelligent content. As a writer and a reader of online material, including blogs and wikis, I was annoyed at first, but I could see his point that with the lifting of the barriers that constrained mass publication to a select few there began an onslaught of content that had to be weighed for authenticity. As a teacher, it worries me that our students and teachers do not have the training to decipher this mass of new content. Our new role could be one that focuses less on technology, but more on how to deal with new strategies to manage the information that is being created, how to focus our attention on what matters most to us when we research. Ian - You make a great point…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-09-22:649749:Comment:516702007-09-22T16:55:25.746ZEdwin Wargohttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/ewargo
Ian - You make a great point about the message and medium. I always think of the "perfect" state of technology literacy is transparency. The medium (technology) is transparent to the user and the focus can be on the content (subject matter). Pip Coburn's The Change Function is a great book that touches upon this.<br />
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One of the things that interests me so much about web 2.0 is the content focus. Wikis and blogs are great examples. As I'm sure we've all experienced, creating web pages has always…
Ian - You make a great point about the message and medium. I always think of the "perfect" state of technology literacy is transparency. The medium (technology) is transparent to the user and the focus can be on the content (subject matter). Pip Coburn's The Change Function is a great book that touches upon this.<br />
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One of the things that interests me so much about web 2.0 is the content focus. Wikis and blogs are great examples. As I'm sure we've all experienced, creating web pages has always been a hard skill to integreate- learning HTML, server extensions, multiple page copies, etc - can quickly change the focus from the content to the technology. Now a teacher or a student can publish almost transparently a web content in a flash. The focus is on the content or as you said message, not trying to get text lined up with pictures by searching through a page of code. I used to half-jokingly tell me high school web page design students that after they were done making their pages look pretty they better have something to say/write since most people don't visit web pages just for the looks. We are starting turn to corner on content and transparency but, I think, is still a long row to hoe. I don't know whether this a f…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-09-22:649749:Comment:515982007-09-22T11:38:21.903ZIan Carmichaelhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/icarmichael
I don't know whether this a fruitful line of discussion, or it just activates my concerns - are we really after technological literacy (however it's defined) or are we as educators seeking knowledge/information literacy? If the latter, then the (bewildering) array of technological -and other- tools are the means by which we demonstrate, communicate and interact with others concerning knowledge: the scaffolding upon which we construct knowledge. So, we need an understanding of the tools - but…
I don't know whether this a fruitful line of discussion, or it just activates my concerns - are we really after technological literacy (however it's defined) or are we as educators seeking knowledge/information literacy? If the latter, then the (bewildering) array of technological -and other- tools are the means by which we demonstrate, communicate and interact with others concerning knowledge: the scaffolding upon which we construct knowledge. So, we need an understanding of the tools - but it's the tools for a purpose, and here John Larkin's question about digital natives or digital dilettantes is quite germane. So many of our technological savvy generation are not using tools in any knowledge building way. They are socially proficient, literate in the social digisphere, but when it comes to arcania - such as knowledge, and even more, wisdom - they are illiterate. As part of an atttempt to address this I've started a page on <a href="http://www.classroom20wiki.com/CriticalThinkingSkills">Critical Thinking Skills</a> in response to a suggestion from <a href="http://www.classroom20wiki.com/By+Objective">Nathan Lowell</a>.<br />
There's a discussion elsewhere on the site, invoking Marshall McCluhan's <a href="http://classroom20.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=649749%3ATopic%3A29993">The Medium is the Massage</a> , and one of McLuhan's points is that when we are proficient, the medium disappears, and we can actually produce novel content, free of concerns about what the medium is, and how to manipulate it. (He also makes the interesting comment that when we first meet a mew medium, we recreate past art. (The rearview mirror effect, McLuhan calls it.) So, for example, many PowerPoint presentations were - and are - digital posters, early websites were single thread text documents. Only when the medium becomes 'invisible' do we create authentic objects in it.<br />
The aim in Web 2.0, or whatever the next buzz will be, is mastering the technology - and that will mean putting up with patiently recreating old-style objects - to the point where the technology vanishes, and we can use it in its own modes.<br />
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What do we have to say?<br />
What do we have to share?<br />
Who is our audience? Who is our community?<br />
How much of a conversation do we need with them?<br />
And when we have some clarity about this, our skills with tools will enable us to frame our work appropriately. The tools are important - but only if we have something to build with them! (We can't build without them, but they aren't the be-all and end-all.) I think it's about having an…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-09-21:649749:Comment:511962007-09-21T07:02:52.144ZMathew Needlemanhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/mrneedleman
I think it's about having an authentic audience for work created in the classroom. Very often there is no audience for student work other than the teacher and no purpose for writing other than the teacher said. So a teacher who has students create powerpoints, films, or ebooks which are never shared is still not providing audiences for student work even if the work might be more interesting than traditional paper and pencil.<br />
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While the internet does provide some ways of more easily connecting…
I think it's about having an authentic audience for work created in the classroom. Very often there is no audience for student work other than the teacher and no purpose for writing other than the teacher said. So a teacher who has students create powerpoints, films, or ebooks which are never shared is still not providing audiences for student work even if the work might be more interesting than traditional paper and pencil.<br />
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While the internet does provide some ways of more easily connecting to global audiences I would not say it is the only way to provide audiences for student work. Simply having pen pals, for example, with whom students share their work would also accomplish the task. I agree with the point of vie…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-09-21:649749:Comment:511262007-09-21T02:04:05.370ZJohn Tannerhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/REMC39
I agree with the point of view that the technology will not last but will morph into the next generation. That is what it is supposed to do isn't it? I mean if we are looking for a modern day version of the overhead projector that lives and thrives still today in many classrooms, a good 30 year run, there is no equivalent in today's enviroment in my opinion. The tools change every 18 months or less but what remains constant is the teaching of skills that will allow students to select the…
I agree with the point of view that the technology will not last but will morph into the next generation. That is what it is supposed to do isn't it? I mean if we are looking for a modern day version of the overhead projector that lives and thrives still today in many classrooms, a good 30 year run, there is no equivalent in today's enviroment in my opinion. The tools change every 18 months or less but what remains constant is the teaching of skills that will allow students to select the correct tool for the task and the learned ability to attach to it some meaning and purpose. So what I am looking forward to is the second generation of Second Life, Moodle, Wikis, Podcasts and Blogs. These tools will be as transparent and intuitive as Amazon, JC Penny and others. They will become part of the fabric of learning and teaching and take place outside of school as well as in the classroom. There are some interesting co…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-09-19:649749:Comment:504272007-09-19T02:14:38.361ZEdwin Wargohttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/ewargo
There are some interesting comments. While I love what technology can do to enhance instruction and learning, I too am past the awe-struck stage of technology. The simplicity and focus on content that web 2.0 is amazing and great but as far as products, I agree with those that question the longevity of them. Many of them are free. Practically, how long can/will they be supported? Should I spend a year introducing them to students and faculty only to have them evaporate? I question the fairness…
There are some interesting comments. While I love what technology can do to enhance instruction and learning, I too am past the awe-struck stage of technology. The simplicity and focus on content that web 2.0 is amazing and great but as far as products, I agree with those that question the longevity of them. Many of them are free. Practically, how long can/will they be supported? Should I spend a year introducing them to students and faculty only to have them evaporate? I question the fairness to both groups.<br />
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I don't think of tech literacy being a vertical component of curriculum, learning, and instruction but rather a cross-component. Learning how technology can enhance learning, understanding, and hopefully improve life, I think is paramount. Defining tech literacy in terms of product features is where it gets murky for me. Autoformat in MS Word for a 3rd grader is an example or memorizing menu commands - it appears from history it will change and morph long before he/she can apply it in any meaningful context in any subject area.<br />
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If I had to define tech literacy at this point in time I would say that it's the skills necessary to choose the most effective tools for enhanced learning, knowledge creation, and knowledge presentation. Whether it's web x.x, Microsoft, apple, ETS, or Google, my hope is students start to develop an intrinsic framework so they too can weather the ever changing landscape of technology. Brad, welcome aboard. As it t…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-09-18:649749:Comment:502062007-09-18T13:28:51.505ZEd Joneshttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/EdJones
Brad, welcome aboard. As it turns out, I'm working on a paper which asks if EduWeb 2.0 isn't really just having this same discussion 1,000,0000 times over. :-) Maybe there should be a sticky post, "Before you Web 2.0 about Web 2.0" :-)<br />
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But maybe we can turn this to something substantive. What is technological literacy? I know of one set of standards, <a href="http://www.iste.org/inhouse/nets/cnets/index.html">National Educational Technology Standards (NETS) 2007</a>, but they're rather high…
Brad, welcome aboard. As it turns out, I'm working on a paper which asks if EduWeb 2.0 isn't really just having this same discussion 1,000,0000 times over. :-) Maybe there should be a sticky post, "Before you Web 2.0 about Web 2.0" :-)<br />
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But maybe we can turn this to something substantive. What is technological literacy? I know of one set of standards, <a href="http://www.iste.org/inhouse/nets/cnets/index.html">National Educational Technology Standards (NETS) 2007</a>, but they're rather high level and vague. Do you have any others?<br />
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When I think of technological literacy for the broad population, I think of the detailed things I have to show people all the time: how do you locate a picture to upload? How do you save a file or a picture? How do you cut and paste? What is Wikipedia?, Websters Online?, The Firefox plugin for zip code lookup? How do I find recipes?<br />
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Asking a student on her way to university to blog, Flickr, and Twitter may well be taking time that she needs to spend on ionic bonds, Romeo's plea for a kiss, ln(e), or Washington's Farewell speech. (I always recall a column several years back that we are teaching kids to communicate, communicate, communicate, but we are giving them less and less knowledge of <i>what</i> is worth communicating).<br />
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Asking another student to do the same <i>could</i> help them master (muscle-memorize for life) the basic skills needed on many a nearby job. Skills they won't pick up elsewhere, from family or friends or fellow students<br />
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Perhaps someone can recall a list of such skills? This is a thoughtful discussi…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-09-18:649749:Comment:501542007-09-18T09:03:43.533ZJohn Larkinhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/johnlarkin
This is a thoughtful discussion. The reflections in this thread mirror my own of late. Technological literacy a façade? I tend to agree in many respects. Fifteen years ago my students and I were working with Apple's Hypercard, not unlike HyperStudio. Ten years after that I found myself in Singapore developing massive amounts of eLearning material for Nokia, Singapore Airlines and other multinationals. I have returned to the classroom. Following work with CD-ROMs, eLearning and other…
This is a thoughtful discussion. The reflections in this thread mirror my own of late. Technological literacy a façade? I tend to agree in many respects. Fifteen years ago my students and I were working with Apple's Hypercard, not unlike HyperStudio. Ten years after that I found myself in Singapore developing massive amounts of eLearning material for Nokia, Singapore Airlines and other multinationals. I have returned to the classroom. Following work with CD-ROMs, eLearning and other technologies employed in an educational environment I find the core Web 2.0 technologies to be useful.<br />
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Blogs require no hard coding and can be quite appealing to the eye if an appropriate template is selected by the teacher or student. Blogs provide an opportunity for expression plus refelction and can act as the HQ in a blended learning experience. Podcasts can be used to support teaching before, during and after a teaching unit. Wikis can become an excellent repository for online resources and links to similar resources. All of the products created by these tools can be re-purposed and acquired by successive cohorts who will probably improve on the earlier cohort’s product. In years past CD-ROMs and major eLearning web sites tended to become outdated and unwieldy. Web 2.0 outputs do not have the same built in obsolescence if designed well.<br />
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There is an never ending stream of Web 2.0 technologies that pepper educational technology blogs and keep the folk at Mashable busy. A few are promising but many are seemingly gimmicks in my estimation. Last week it was Animoto. What will it be next week? Many lack the ‘solid’ nature of blogs, wikis and even podcasts. It is enjoyable to experiment with them. I still wonder sometimes about the term Web 2.0. Following my experiences with HyperCard, CD-ROMs and large eLearning projects I am a little reluctant to surgically attach myself to Web 2.0.<br />
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Technology is not a panacea for all our teaching and learning issues. Educators consider the desired knowledge, skills and attitudinal outcomes required of the syllabus. Match the outcome to the best tool or strategy via the use of a curriculum matrix. Perhaps the most appropriate tool is a quiz, debate, field trip, lecture, essay or drawing. Perhaps the best tool just might be the application of a matching technology.<br />
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Technological facade. Following my return to the classroom after a hiatus in tertiary and corporate worlds I was surprised to see both significant change and no change. Some teachers were experimenting with technology and "mixing media". Others were simply presenting copy/paste products with little thought for audience or outcomes as indicated in this<br />
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I am surprised with what I observe in the student population as well. There is certainly a core of students who are indeed quite savvy. They are building their own web presence. They have moved on from copy/paste Powerpoint and the fruitless pursuits of MySpace and the like. A significant proportion of students exhibit a lack of depth in their understanding of the technology and how it can be bent, shaped and moulded to produce something unique or quite different. I find that a significant number of students require considerable guidance and assistance in setting up blogs, producing presentations and working creatively with video, and so on.<br />
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As I have blogged elsewhere in relation to Sue Waters (Mobile Technology in TAFE) and her thoughts… are the students digital natives or digital dilettantes in the main? [<a href="http://www.larkin.net.au/2007/09/digital-natives-or-simply-digital.html">Digital Natives or simply Digital Dilettantes?</a>]<br />
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Change is constant and we need to embrace it. Thank goodness for change. Teaching and learning is enriched by change.<br />
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I would like to thank Barry Bakin, ESL Teacher Adviser, Division of Adult and Career Education in the Los Angeles Unified School District for the introduction to Classroom 2.0 and the discussion forums. Thank you Barry.<br />
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John Larkin<br />
NSW, Australia.