Good PowerPoints vs. BAD PowerPoints - Classroom 2.02024-03-28T17:23:02Zhttps://www.classroom20.com/forum/topics/good-powerpoints-vs-bad?commentId=649749%3AComment%3A286125&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSorry, I forgot to mention, t…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-02-07:649749:Comment:2867422009-02-07T19:29:45.756ZMaria Fleyshgakkerhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/MariaFleyshgakker
Sorry, I forgot to mention, that because of the specifics of the software the students can make lists, use organizers, while they are reading. So it's c/p, but copy only a word or a sentence.<br />
Plus, PPP allows you to make graphs and convert them into different style.
Sorry, I forgot to mention, that because of the specifics of the software the students can make lists, use organizers, while they are reading. So it's c/p, but copy only a word or a sentence.<br />
Plus, PPP allows you to make graphs and convert them into different style. You are absolutely correct, t…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-02-07:649749:Comment:2863212009-02-07T02:25:37.235ZMaria Fleyshgakkerhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/MariaFleyshgakker
You are absolutely correct, this is another aspect I really wanted to discuss. Very often students are required to copy some notes from the textbooks or whatever the teacher wrote on the board; it happens so often that if you don't tell them to copy they copy anyway, they were trained to copy something all the time from the first grade, then in the middle school. Here in HS they complain when I don't allow them to copy the text of the problem they have to solve. It seems sometimes that they…
You are absolutely correct, this is another aspect I really wanted to discuss. Very often students are required to copy some notes from the textbooks or whatever the teacher wrote on the board; it happens so often that if you don't tell them to copy they copy anyway, they were trained to copy something all the time from the first grade, then in the middle school. Here in HS they complain when I don't allow them to copy the text of the problem they have to solve. It seems sometimes that they believe copying is a synonym to learning.<br />
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With the PPP it's completely different, they are doing research, they are expected to read a lot of text and chose very little to copy. I usually tell them that PPP is not a writing assignment, it is a reading assignment. It is important to differentiate exactly because of what you are saying. They have to know where they copied the info from and learn to create a bibliography (it's not in my assignments, but for my best students, I have this one more slide). When they go to college they can get much higher grades if they know how to show their resources.I remember I was getting Bs until I learned to copy and recite :) absolutely all professors at NYU required reciting, not my own thoughts :) They probably were old school :) Maria, It sounds like you are…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-02-07:649749:Comment:2862292009-02-07T00:17:39.904ZNancy Boschhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/nbosch
Maria, It sounds like you are using the tool to meet the needs of your kids, bravo. BUT I think many teachers allow c/p text, copyrighted and pixelated images, no citations etc--IMO that isn't best practice and it teaches some bad habits.
Maria, It sounds like you are using the tool to meet the needs of your kids, bravo. BUT I think many teachers allow c/p text, copyrighted and pixelated images, no citations etc--IMO that isn't best practice and it teaches some bad habits. Brian -
I just embedded my f…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-02-06:649749:Comment:2861252009-02-06T21:46:00.754ZEve Heatonhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/EveHeaton
Brian -<br />
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I just embedded my first student PowerPoint project on our blog using authorstream. The transitions didn't take but I am ok with that as long as the audio held. This is the first time I have run a project like this with fourth graders so we both learned a lot. I love all the suggestions here. Hopefully our presentations will start getting better. The project online is a reflection of some highly motivated students. They are done a week early and are now training my other student on how…
Brian -<br />
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I just embedded my first student PowerPoint project on our blog using authorstream. The transitions didn't take but I am ok with that as long as the audio held. This is the first time I have run a project like this with fourth graders so we both learned a lot. I love all the suggestions here. Hopefully our presentations will start getting better. The project online is a reflection of some highly motivated students. They are done a week early and are now training my other student on how to use the audio narration feature of powerpoint. I have another group who will be finished next week who have already asked to make another.<br />
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<a href="http://www.mrsheatonsclass1.blogspot.com">www.mrsheatonsclass1.blogspot.com</a> Kev: I'm reminded of the scre…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-02-06:649749:Comment:2860692009-02-06T19:57:21.793ZBrianhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/Brian
Kev: I'm reminded of the screen tool on the Promethean Boards that you can pull down to reveal each section one at a time in order for students to focus. Thank you for your input!
Kev: I'm reminded of the screen tool on the Promethean Boards that you can pull down to reveal each section one at a time in order for students to focus. Thank you for your input! Maria--thanks for the input a…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-02-06:649749:Comment:2860672009-02-06T19:55:30.233ZBrianhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/Brian
Maria--thanks for the input and links. Teachers always enjoy getting ideas from others' work!
Maria--thanks for the input and links. Teachers always enjoy getting ideas from others' work! Thanks, Raphael!tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-02-06:649749:Comment:2860652009-02-06T19:54:42.777ZBrianhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/Brian
Thanks, Raphael!
Thanks, Raphael! Hi Brian,
The example I'm go…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-02-06:649749:Comment:2860622009-02-06T19:53:28.492ZRaphael Rousseauhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/RaphaelRousseau
Hi Brian,<br />
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The example I'm going to give you is not intended for teaching purpose, but it's one of a person that is know as making brilliant presentations, Dick Hardt :<br />
<a href="http://identity20.com/media/OSCON2005/">http://identity20.com/media/OSCON2005/</a><br />
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I've been said he uses Apple's Keynote: <a href="http://www.apple.com/iwork/keynote/">http://www.apple.com/iwork/keynote/</a>
Hi Brian,<br />
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The example I'm going to give you is not intended for teaching purpose, but it's one of a person that is know as making brilliant presentations, Dick Hardt :<br />
<a href="http://identity20.com/media/OSCON2005/">http://identity20.com/media/OSCON2005/</a><br />
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I've been said he uses Apple's Keynote: <a href="http://www.apple.com/iwork/keynote/">http://www.apple.com/iwork/keynote/</a> Kev,
I loved your video. I ho…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-02-06:649749:Comment:2860042009-02-06T18:35:56.679ZLorraine Stinsonhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/LorraineStinson
Kev,<br />
I loved your video. I hope it's okay to share with my social studies teachers. I'm a middle school media specialist, and I agree with you about notes & 7th graders. They need all th support we can give them. Thanks
Kev,<br />
I loved your video. I hope it's okay to share with my social studies teachers. I'm a middle school media specialist, and I agree with you about notes & 7th graders. They need all th support we can give them. Thanks Hi everybody, you are having…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-02-06:649749:Comment:2859972009-02-06T17:55:11.563ZMaria Fleyshgakkerhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/MariaFleyshgakker
Hi everybody, you are having a very important discussion here, thank you for bringing it up, Brian :)<br />
I started to use ppp years ago, and noticed that my view on the purpose of the ppp changed. Today I believe that there are no BAD PPPs they all are good. The mistakes we make are either stages of growth or characteristics of the person who made the PPP.<br />
I use the software called PowerPoint Presentation as an instructional tool, not as "Presentation" tool and give it to the students. I don't…
Hi everybody, you are having a very important discussion here, thank you for bringing it up, Brian :)<br />
I started to use ppp years ago, and noticed that my view on the purpose of the ppp changed. Today I believe that there are no BAD PPPs they all are good. The mistakes we make are either stages of growth or characteristics of the person who made the PPP.<br />
I use the software called PowerPoint Presentation as an instructional tool, not as "Presentation" tool and give it to the students. I don't make PPPs; they do. And I don't teach the topic any other way. My students use the software to keep records while they are researching the topic. That means they find information, they find illustrations and animations, they annimate their slides and repeatedly go over the same information while doing all of that. They are having fun learning the new topic, you hear "Ohs" and "wows" every day and every period. Each file is different even when they use wikipadia as the resorce, and found the same picture. The best thing is not the final product, but the process of learning and creating it.<br />
Very often the product is very primitive, or wordy, or is not readable. So what? You give them an advice, you praise them anyway, and you give them the next assignment. Increase the dificulty of your requirements, if you want to or feel it's neccessary, but you will see their growth even if you don't change the assignment, just the topic to learn. Very often you will see they didn't need your advice they came with the correction on their own, and you'll enjoy the fact that it was you who created the conditions in which they can grow.<br />
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Now about special education kids: they do unbelivable job on PPP if left alone with the assignment. I have the most incredible experience with the SpEd kids. They turned out to be the most creative ones. They get annoyed with too much instruction they want to investigate on their own. They just need encouragment from you.<br />
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Here you can take a look at some of my <a href="http://mejf2105.googlepages.com/mypowerpointassignments">assignments from the past</a> this year assignments are not there, sorry :):):)<br />
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I hope I was clear, any software can be used for instructions, not exactly to the liking of people who created it :):):) but maybe, it is their genius to create a multipurpose product :)