Kids belong from high-income families do better at both, but researchers not exactly sure why - Classroom 2.02024-03-28T11:04:33Zhttps://www.classroom20.com/forum/topics/kids-belong-from-highincome?feed=yes&xn_auth=noYES! More power to Payne's in…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-03-05:649749:Comment:3035282009-03-05T10:37:25.873ZIan Carmichaelhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/icarmichael
YES! More power to Payne's insights. She also speaks about stimulation and engagement, lower visual acuity in darker surroundings as may occur more often in generational poverty. There is often less personal contact, and so less opportunity of learning of anything to be mediated. I cannot speak too highly of the usefulness of this material.
YES! More power to Payne's insights. She also speaks about stimulation and engagement, lower visual acuity in darker surroundings as may occur more often in generational poverty. There is often less personal contact, and so less opportunity of learning of anything to be mediated. I cannot speak too highly of the usefulness of this material. ...and in contrast to what ki…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-03-01:649749:Comment:3010932009-03-01T14:06:22.144ZNancy Boschhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/nbosch
...and in contrast to what kids living in poverty don't have it's what kids in affluent families do have. They have the opportunity to experience travel, theater, museums etc. They participate in opportunities for kids like enrichment classes, drama clubs, and special sports coaching. I teach gifted kids and I am always suprised at the difference in what my middle class/upper middle class kids know that the 'blue collar' kids don't. It's a level of exposure that takes place in the family.
...and in contrast to what kids living in poverty don't have it's what kids in affluent families do have. They have the opportunity to experience travel, theater, museums etc. They participate in opportunities for kids like enrichment classes, drama clubs, and special sports coaching. I teach gifted kids and I am always suprised at the difference in what my middle class/upper middle class kids know that the 'blue collar' kids don't. It's a level of exposure that takes place in the family. Many years ago, when my first…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-03-01:649749:Comment:3009822009-03-01T03:06:32.733ZMaria Fleyshgakkerhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/MariaFleyshgakker
Many years ago, when my first daughter was born and I was reading many books on how to deal with this little creature, I ran into one book that explained that the speech and gestures control are located in the same area of the brain. It was noticed very long time ago that babies who pick up things with their fingers speak earlier and better than the babies who grab the toys with the whole hand. This is why ancient people created those games with the babies' fingers. Those games developed the…
Many years ago, when my first daughter was born and I was reading many books on how to deal with this little creature, I ran into one book that explained that the speech and gestures control are located in the same area of the brain. It was noticed very long time ago that babies who pick up things with their fingers speak earlier and better than the babies who grab the toys with the whole hand. This is why ancient people created those games with the babies' fingers. Those games developed the child's speech area of the brain. While playing with the baby's little fingers, massaging them and singing itsy-bitsy spider song you really develop their speech area of the brain.<br />
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Now about the money. In poor families children are cared for differently: less time is spent on games and conversations because parents are working 2 or 3 jobs, don't see the kids as much as the wealthy parents, who would hire somebody to spend time with the children if they cannot be there themselves. Malcolm Gladwell has a lot of…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-03-01:649749:Comment:3009402009-03-01T00:31:04.898ZNancy Boschhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/nbosch
Malcolm Gladwell has a lot of interesting things to say about student differences in his new book Outliers, not rocket science but interesting.
Malcolm Gladwell has a lot of interesting things to say about student differences in his new book Outliers, not rocket science but interesting. Ruby Payne's book "A Framewor…tag:www.classroom20.com,2009-02-28:649749:Comment:3005992009-02-28T11:27:13.827ZJulie Bairdhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/JulieBaird
Ruby Payne's book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&tag=mozilla-20&index=blended&link_code=qs&field-keywords=A%20framework%20for%20poverty&sourceid=Mozilla-search">"A Framework for Understanding Poverty"</a> talks about the differences between generational poverty, middle class and the wealthy class. The average size of vocabulary between parents in middle class and parents in generational poverty is astounding. If I remember correctly from a speech I heard her give,…
Ruby Payne's book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&tag=mozilla-20&index=blended&link_code=qs&field-keywords=A%20framework%20for%20poverty&sourceid=Mozilla-search">"A Framework for Understanding Poverty"</a> talks about the differences between generational poverty, middle class and the wealthy class. The average size of vocabulary between parents in middle class and parents in generational poverty is astounding. If I remember correctly from a speech I heard her give, a middle class child entering first grade has a larger vocabulary than an adult from generational poverty. I can't find my notes from that speech at the moment.<br />
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One thing I do remember is that people in generational poverty are not very specific with their vocabulary. If a child drops a fork, generational poverty parents would most likely say "Pick it up!" or "Pick that up!" Parents of middle class would also say this but would also say "Pick the fork up off the floor." Middle class parents use more descriptive nouns. It's hard to find a gesture for "it" or "that."<br />
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Although Ruby Payne doesn't talk about gesturing, I suspect that gesturing is related to the size of the parents' vocabulary strongly influences the amount of gesturing the parents. That's just my assumption but it is a logical one to me.<br />
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As educators, if you have not read Ruby Payne's book, you should. She wrote it to help teachers understand students from generational poverty. Reading the book helped me understand my students' struggle with standardize testing, telling a sequential story, and lack of common vocabulary. It's an excellent book for educators.