Live@edu vs. Google Apps for Education - Classroom 2.02024-03-28T14:14:58Zhttps://www.classroom20.com/forum/topics/liveedu-vs-google-apps-for?commentId=649749%3AComment%3A612749&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks Derrick for this reply…tag:www.classroom20.com,2012-01-21:649749:Comment:7980942012-01-21T21:10:43.572ZDodie Ainsliehttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/DodieAinslie
<p>Thanks Derrick for this reply- great information. I have also felt that as educators we simply can't continue to pay the high price for Microsoft when there are alternatives that are free. We also are giving our students life long digital skills since Google is available for all.</p>
<p>Thanks Derrick for this reply- great information. I have also felt that as educators we simply can't continue to pay the high price for Microsoft when there are alternatives that are free. We also are giving our students life long digital skills since Google is available for all.</p> Here's a better link to the d…tag:www.classroom20.com,2011-05-19:649749:Comment:6380742011-05-19T19:21:56.682ZRoger Granthttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/RogerGrant
Here's a better link to the discussion on Google <a href="http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Docs/thread?tid=63222afb1f6f2143&hl=en&fid=63222afb1f6f21430004a3a5e49db8bd">http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Docs/thread?tid=63222afb1f6f2143&hl=en&fid=63222afb1f6f21430004a3a5e49db8bd</a>
Here's a better link to the discussion on Google <a href="http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Docs/thread?tid=63222afb1f6f2143&hl=en&fid=63222afb1f6f21430004a3a5e49db8bd">http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Docs/thread?tid=63222afb1f6f2143&hl=en&fid=63222afb1f6f21430004a3a5e49db8bd</a> Google apps has some issues w…tag:www.classroom20.com,2011-05-17:649749:Comment:6370822011-05-17T21:49:48.034ZRoger Granthttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/RogerGrant
Google apps has some issues with connecting from schools. My students often get the message "trying to reach google". See the discussion here. <a href="http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Docs/thread?tid=0bfb861a047a7baf&hl=en" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Docs/thread?tid=0bfb861a047a7baf&hl=en</a>
Google apps has some issues with connecting from schools. My students often get the message "trying to reach google". See the discussion here. <a href="http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Docs/thread?tid=0bfb861a047a7baf&hl=en" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Docs/thread?tid=0bfb861a047a7baf&hl=en</a> 365 will replace live--It see…tag:www.classroom20.com,2011-04-23:649749:Comment:6280082011-04-23T18:47:29.912ZJim Sieglhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/JimSiegl
<p>365 will replace live--It seems that all of the services that are offered as part of live, and most of the 365 services will be free for students, with a charge for faculty/staff and for some of the higher end features for students. The services for which there are comparable analogs in the core Google Apps for edu appear to be free to students--the big issue is the cost for staff.…</p>
<p>365 will replace live--It seems that all of the services that are offered as part of live, and most of the 365 services will be free for students, with a charge for faculty/staff and for some of the higher end features for students. The services for which there are comparable analogs in the core Google Apps for edu appear to be free to students--the big issue is the cost for staff. <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-20028156-75.html" target="_blank">http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-20028156-75.html</a></p>
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<p>It seems like it is a step back in charging for staff, but a step forward in offering more free services to students.</p> If you carefully read the art…tag:www.classroom20.com,2011-04-23:649749:Comment:6274622011-04-23T11:40:45.039ZDr. Rita Oateshttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/DrRitaOates
<p>If you carefully read the article you link above, it's an agreement with one institution, NYIT, and no mention of the state Dept. of Ed. involvement in any way. There was no RFP that was awarded. Dig deeper, and see who signed this. Someone at NYIT. As a former investigative reporter, I would consider this a great example of "press release puffery." How many people just reprinted the press release without digging into the facts? The first thing a decent reporter would have done is to note…</p>
<p>If you carefully read the article you link above, it's an agreement with one institution, NYIT, and no mention of the state Dept. of Ed. involvement in any way. There was no RFP that was awarded. Dig deeper, and see who signed this. Someone at NYIT. As a former investigative reporter, I would consider this a great example of "press release puffery." How many people just reprinted the press release without digging into the facts? The first thing a decent reporter would have done is to note this omission and call the state Dept. of Ed. in Albany to get clarification or a quotation. It's not the same story then. But few media outlets have staff to dig into stories these days; too many just reprint press releases.</p>
<p>By comparison, the New York City DOE announcement of ePals SchoolMail365 was following an RFP. Google did not win that RFP for the 1.1 million students in New York City. SchoolMail365 from ePals did.</p>
<p>They wanted educationally related features and abilities that were impossible to get in Google's email, especially for children under age 13.</p>
<p>Note also in the CNN article this chilling comment:</p>
<p>"...The cost to Google per user is so insignificant, it is offset by the opportunity of getting a future customers ready for Google Apps for Enterprise."</p>
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<p> </p> I recently read that Microsof…tag:www.classroom20.com,2011-04-23:649749:Comment:6278962011-04-23T03:33:23.391ZBrian McLanehttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/BrianMcLane
<p>I recently read that Microsoft is replacing its Office Live apps with Office 365, which will be a subscription-based service. I don't know if they will still offer Office LIve for free, and I don't have the link to the article.</p>
<p>Our school is looking at adopting Google Apps for Education.</p>
<p>I recently read that Microsoft is replacing its Office Live apps with Office 365, which will be a subscription-based service. I don't know if they will still offer Office LIve for free, and I don't have the link to the article.</p>
<p>Our school is looking at adopting Google Apps for Education.</p> I used Etherpad and now use G…tag:www.classroom20.com,2011-03-22:649749:Comment:6148472011-03-22T13:48:56.977ZBill Campbellhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/BillCampbell
I used Etherpad and now use Google Docs pretty heavily. The major revision Google made to Docs not too long after they bought Etherpad showed that they integrated most of Etherpad's features into Docs word processing. The only Etherpad feature I have found missing from G-Docs was the way Etherpad showed a different highlight color for each editor in real-time. To pick out individual user contributions in Google Docs, you now need to look at the revision history.
I used Etherpad and now use Google Docs pretty heavily. The major revision Google made to Docs not too long after they bought Etherpad showed that they integrated most of Etherpad's features into Docs word processing. The only Etherpad feature I have found missing from G-Docs was the way Etherpad showed a different highlight color for each editor in real-time. To pick out individual user contributions in Google Docs, you now need to look at the revision history. Sadly no ink, shapes, audio o…tag:www.classroom20.com,2011-03-21:649749:Comment:6148182011-03-21T20:32:19.443ZJim Sieglhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/JimSiegl
Sadly no ink, shapes, audio or tag as far as I can tell.
Sadly no ink, shapes, audio or tag as far as I can tell. I've been using a competing p…tag:www.classroom20.com,2011-03-21:649749:Comment:6146672011-03-21T20:16:07.891ZJim Sieglhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/JimSiegl
I've been using a competing product (<a href="http://www.offisync.com" target="_blank">www.offisync.com</a>) and find it works much better<br/>
I've been using a competing product (<a href="http://www.offisync.com" target="_blank">www.offisync.com</a>) and find it works much better<br/> Jim,
Regarding your MS Pro #1…tag:www.classroom20.com,2011-03-21:649749:Comment:6148172011-03-21T19:49:10.480ZBill Campbellhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/BillCampbell
<p>Jim,</p>
Regarding your MS Pro #1 reason, does web based OneNote now support ink. We are huge users of OneNote as part of our Tablet PC 1:1 program in grades 6-12. We just switched to Google Apps for our email last week but considered live@edu for a bit during early planning because of OneNote. At the time, lack of ink support in OneNote web killed that as a major advantage for use. Has that changed?<br/>
<p>Jim,</p>
Regarding your MS Pro #1 reason, does web based OneNote now support ink. We are huge users of OneNote as part of our Tablet PC 1:1 program in grades 6-12. We just switched to Google Apps for our email last week but considered live@edu for a bit during early planning because of OneNote. At the time, lack of ink support in OneNote web killed that as a major advantage for use. Has that changed?<br/>