Students Who Can't Read Cursive - Classroom 2.02024-03-28T15:36:13Zhttps://www.classroom20.com/forum/topics/students-who-cant-read-cursive?commentId=649749%3AComment%3A440068&feed=yes&xn_auth=noYou are scored on legibility…tag:www.classroom20.com,2010-03-05:649749:Comment:4440972010-03-05T16:57:36.802ZLaura Gonzalezhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/LauraGonzalez
You are scored on legibility in that illegible essays are not scored well.
You are scored on legibility in that illegible essays are not scored well. So, because you can't submit…tag:www.classroom20.com,2010-03-05:649749:Comment:4440512010-03-05T15:32:27.803ZKevhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/Kev
So, because you can't submit your SAT digitally that means College Board supports cursive? I find that a bit of a stretch.<br />
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You are not scored on the neatness of your essay unless everything I've read has been incorrect. Grammar and punctuation yes but that, again, is far beside the issue raised here.
So, because you can't submit your SAT digitally that means College Board supports cursive? I find that a bit of a stretch.<br />
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You are not scored on the neatness of your essay unless everything I've read has been incorrect. Grammar and punctuation yes but that, again, is far beside the issue raised here. Not to beat a dead horse, but…tag:www.classroom20.com,2010-03-05:649749:Comment:4440262010-03-05T15:04:44.317ZCarol Arcomanohttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/CarolArcomano
Not to beat a dead horse, but if handwriting is outdated, then so are the creators of the new SAT tests.<br />
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What are the SAT's? The SAT has been defined as "the best independent, standardized measure of a student's college readiness. It is standardized across all students, schools, and states—providing a common and objective scale for comparison."…
Not to beat a dead horse, but if handwriting is outdated, then so are the creators of the new SAT tests.<br />
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What are the SAT's? The SAT has been defined as "the best independent, standardized measure of a student's college readiness. It is standardized across all students, schools, and states—providing a common and objective scale for comparison." <a href="http://askville.amazon.com/purpose-SAT-scores/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=9869392" target="_blank">http://askville.amazon.com/purpose-SAT-scores/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=9869392</a><br />
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Here is a link that talks about the new SAT test that requires an essay to be handwritten. Here are some quotes from the article:<br />
"Most high-school students do not remember cursive. We learned it in fourth or fifth grade and have not been required to use it. This was definitely the hardest thing on the test!"<br />
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"the new SAT essay section is going to be difficult for test-takers who have grown overly dependent on computer software to catch grammar or spelling mistakes."<br />
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"There are still jobs and incidents when handwriting is still the most efficient way of written communication," she said.<br />
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<a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002206209_sat13m.html" target="_blank">http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002206209_sat13m.html</a> I have given up on pushing cu…tag:www.classroom20.com,2010-03-02:649749:Comment:4414922010-03-02T01:05:19.937ZDenise Stewarthttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/DeniseStewart
I have given up on pushing cursive. After all, that won't keep them out of college and many of my students print at warp speed. What I won't compromise on is the need for them to learn to type. As more teachers are requiring their work to be typed, I wonder if cursive should be pushed. Please remember that my perspective comes from the high school ELLs I teach who all arrive without training in cursive. Most are also 3-4 years behind academically.<br />
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Denise…
I have given up on pushing cursive. After all, that won't keep them out of college and many of my students print at warp speed. What I won't compromise on is the need for them to learn to type. As more teachers are requiring their work to be typed, I wonder if cursive should be pushed. Please remember that my perspective comes from the high school ELLs I teach who all arrive without training in cursive. Most are also 3-4 years behind academically.<br />
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<a href="http://www.ellteacherpros.com" target="_blank">www.ellteacherpros.com</a><br />
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<a href="http://www.teachingsuccesseswithells.blogspot.com" target="_blank">www.teachingsuccesseswithells.blogspot.com</a> I have given up on pushing cu…tag:www.classroom20.com,2010-03-02:649749:Comment:4414912010-03-02T01:05:16.313ZDenise Stewarthttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/DeniseStewart
I have given up on pushing cursive. After all, that won't keep them out of college and many of my students print at warp speed. What I won't compromise on is the need for them to learn to type. As more teachers are requiring their work to be typed, I wonder if cursive should be pushed. Please remember that my perspective comes from the high school ELLs I teach who all arrive without training in cursive. Most are also 3-4 years behind academically.<br />
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Denise…
I have given up on pushing cursive. After all, that won't keep them out of college and many of my students print at warp speed. What I won't compromise on is the need for them to learn to type. As more teachers are requiring their work to be typed, I wonder if cursive should be pushed. Please remember that my perspective comes from the high school ELLs I teach who all arrive without training in cursive. Most are also 3-4 years behind academically.<br />
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Denise<br />
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<a href="http://www.ellteacherpros.com" target="_blank">www.ellteacherpros.com</a><br />
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<a href="http://www.teachingsuccesseswithells.blogspot.com" target="_blank">www.teachingsuccesseswithells.blogspot.com</a> I teach dyslexic students. I…tag:www.classroom20.com,2010-03-01:649749:Comment:4413002010-03-01T18:09:47.577ZLaura Gonzalezhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/LauraGonzalez
I teach dyslexic students. I was told (I haven't the numbers to back it up but there are several websites which agree) that cursive is of particular value to dyslexic students.<br />
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<a href="http://www.dyslexia-parent.com/mag40.html">"Some dyslexic children experience difficulty memorizing the sequence of movements which make up the writing of each letter. This can lead to uneven handwriting, and, if severe, may be described as 'dysgraphia'. "…</a>
I teach dyslexic students. I was told (I haven't the numbers to back it up but there are several websites which agree) that cursive is of particular value to dyslexic students.<br />
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<a href="http://www.dyslexia-parent.com/mag40.html">"Some dyslexic children experience difficulty memorizing the sequence of movements which make up the writing of each letter. This can lead to uneven handwriting, and, if severe, may be described as 'dysgraphia'. "</a><br />
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<a href="http://www.dyslexia-parent.com/mag40.html">"The best help for improving handwriting and memorizing spellings is to teach dyslexic children cursive handwriting."</a><br />
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<a href="http://swrtraining.com/id17.html">Historically cursive was taught first to our nation's children. Today, reading and dyslexia experts are rediscovering that teaching cursive first--before print or manuscript--improves long-term penmanship skills, helps children learn to read, virtually eliminates reversals, and enables children to read what is written by others.</a><br />
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<a href="http://specialed.about.com/od/literacy/a/whycursive.htm">If learning to print is causing difficulty for students with disabilities, move onward to cursive writing (handwriting).</a><br />
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Cursive has been severely neglected in our state because it wasn't on the state-administered test. As a result, we have 10 years worth of students unable to read or write cursive. It was interesting to read th…tag:www.classroom20.com,2010-03-01:649749:Comment:4410632010-03-01T03:52:27.792ZDonna Murdochhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/DonnaMurdoch
It was interesting to read these posts. I went back to school/university during mid-life and when a blue book came around I panicked. Even at my age I tend to print fast or in poor cursive (it used to be great writing.) It became unusual for Professors not to accept Word documents for tests, but I think your surprise is about technology as much as anything else. You did not say they can't read (as someone else here mentioned) you just said they cannot read cursive. Somehow I do not find that…
It was interesting to read these posts. I went back to school/university during mid-life and when a blue book came around I panicked. Even at my age I tend to print fast or in poor cursive (it used to be great writing.) It became unusual for Professors not to accept Word documents for tests, but I think your surprise is about technology as much as anything else. You did not say they can't read (as someone else here mentioned) you just said they cannot read cursive. Somehow I do not find that too strange. We've all raised some very go…tag:www.classroom20.com,2010-03-01:649749:Comment:4410472010-03-01T03:20:23.106ZColleen Brownhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/ColleenBrown
We've all raised some very good points. Bottom line is, it's about finding the right balance.
We've all raised some very good points. Bottom line is, it's about finding the right balance. Have data to back up your arg…tag:www.classroom20.com,2010-03-01:649749:Comment:4410322010-03-01T02:39:17.460ZDorethia(Dotty) Myershttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/DorethiaDottyMyers
Have data to back up your argument. Kids still need to learn to write, because writing assessments are pencil/pen and paper. When they get into the real world, they may be asked to write reports manually, not on a computer. Teach our kids real world skills.
Have data to back up your argument. Kids still need to learn to write, because writing assessments are pencil/pen and paper. When they get into the real world, they may be asked to write reports manually, not on a computer. Teach our kids real world skills. Unfortunately, many of the te…tag:www.classroom20.com,2010-03-01:649749:Comment:4410292010-03-01T02:31:50.486ZColleen Brownhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/ColleenBrown
Unfortunately, many of the teachers don't want it this way, but it comes from building leadership. It doesn't "count" if it isn't 5 paragraphs, with an introduction, 3 detail paragraphs, and a conclusion. Typed, double spaced, and perfect.... Many of the teachers would love to break free, but how do we counter some of the old attitudes by leaders about cursive, writing, and learning in general? That's my next question for discussion...
Unfortunately, many of the teachers don't want it this way, but it comes from building leadership. It doesn't "count" if it isn't 5 paragraphs, with an introduction, 3 detail paragraphs, and a conclusion. Typed, double spaced, and perfect.... Many of the teachers would love to break free, but how do we counter some of the old attitudes by leaders about cursive, writing, and learning in general? That's my next question for discussion...