Comments - Why Does Daniel Pink Hate Me? - Classroom 2.02024-03-28T17:26:19Zhttps://www.classroom20.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=649749%3ABlogPost%3A132139&xn_auth=noIn my experience, it is when…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-04-20:649749:Comment:1327352008-04-20T02:57:44.290ZKevinhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/kevinh
In my experience, it is when you have a well balanced team composed of linear and non-linear, creative and analytical thinkers that you can do amazing things. I don't like the left/right brain model because it often leads to over simplifying ideas that are incredibly complex and nuanced.
In my experience, it is when you have a well balanced team composed of linear and non-linear, creative and analytical thinkers that you can do amazing things. I don't like the left/right brain model because it often leads to over simplifying ideas that are incredibly complex and nuanced. OK, I've had the book for awh…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-04-20:649749:Comment:1327062008-04-20T00:42:01.330ZLisa Linnhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/LisaLinn
OK, I've had the book for awhile, but just started it today. Sylvia, Pink doesn't hate you, he envies you! You may be predominantly left-brained, but you won my allegiance with your empathy and understanding. As a right brained type, I would be very fearful that righties will "take over" anything, nothing concrete would ever be accomplished!
OK, I've had the book for awhile, but just started it today. Sylvia, Pink doesn't hate you, he envies you! You may be predominantly left-brained, but you won my allegiance with your empathy and understanding. As a right brained type, I would be very fearful that righties will "take over" anything, nothing concrete would ever be accomplished! Randy,
I don't see many valid…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-04-20:649749:Comment:1327012008-04-20T00:32:05.715ZSylvia Martinezhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/smartinez
Randy,<br />
I don't see many valid uses of data in Pink's book. I see a lot of anecdotes, some of which have numbers attached, but highly selective and often out of context. In my book, that is not using data.<br />
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If you have an example of where you think he uses data analysis well, I'd like to talk about it.
Randy,<br />
I don't see many valid uses of data in Pink's book. I see a lot of anecdotes, some of which have numbers attached, but highly selective and often out of context. In my book, that is not using data.<br />
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If you have an example of where you think he uses data analysis well, I'd like to talk about it. Lisa - I really enjoyed that…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-04-20:649749:Comment:1326962008-04-20T00:27:22.700ZSylvia Martinezhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/smartinez
Lisa - I really enjoyed that talk too. For those of you who haven't seen it, the speaker had a stroke and her talk is about her experience, both as the "victim" and as a scientist analyzing the process. Amazing, entertaining and thought-provoking. The perfect video to watch if you want either side of your mind blown ;-)
Lisa - I really enjoyed that talk too. For those of you who haven't seen it, the speaker had a stroke and her talk is about her experience, both as the "victim" and as a scientist analyzing the process. Amazing, entertaining and thought-provoking. The perfect video to watch if you want either side of your mind blown ;-) I enjoyed your post yesterday…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-04-19:649749:Comment:1326132008-04-19T18:36:21.945ZLisa Linnhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/LisaLinn
I enjoyed your post yesterday when I read it, and agree with most of the above responses, I'd also like to point out another discrepancy, While we do have left and right brain hemispheres, they seldom work independently. For example, mathematics is considered a left brain function, yet it corresponds with music which is a right brain function. Now, let me point you to a video that throws a huge wrench in the whole thing. This is about a neuro-scientist and an amazing experience she has.…
I enjoyed your post yesterday when I read it, and agree with most of the above responses, I'd also like to point out another discrepancy, While we do have left and right brain hemispheres, they seldom work independently. For example, mathematics is considered a left brain function, yet it corresponds with music which is a right brain function. Now, let me point you to a video that throws a huge wrench in the whole thing. This is about a neuro-scientist and an amazing experience she has. http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/229 Haven't read the book, but I…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-04-19:649749:Comment:1324352008-04-19T01:12:53.981ZKaren Henkehttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/nimblepress
Haven't read the book, but I saw Pink deliver his talk. He's very entertaining (a big part of why conferences pay high prices IMHO) and as mentioned above admittedly a left brainer. He even shows a slide of an attempt at a self portrait before and after taking a drawing class. As someone with the wrong "E" degree in Silicon Valley (English instead of engineering), I've seen the impact of being a creative rather than a math whiz in my income opportunities. But I wouldn't change a thing and…
Haven't read the book, but I saw Pink deliver his talk. He's very entertaining (a big part of why conferences pay high prices IMHO) and as mentioned above admittedly a left brainer. He even shows a slide of an attempt at a self portrait before and after taking a drawing class. As someone with the wrong "E" degree in Silicon Valley (English instead of engineering), I've seen the impact of being a creative rather than a math whiz in my income opportunities. But I wouldn't change a thing and believe that what I do as a writer is just as valuable to the community in which I live. Sarah, you could explain Twit…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-04-18:649749:Comment:1323182008-04-18T17:45:25.469ZSylvia Martinezhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/smartinez
Sarah, you could explain Twitter that way, but why? It does seem a stretch to use a metaphor about a metaphor to explain a simple human need for connection and community.<br />
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Scott, I grok that!<br />
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Randy, I find it disingenuous that Pink would claim to be a "left-brainer." Sorry. Doesn't compute.<br />
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Jeff, I agree. I also think it's insulting to previous generations to say that beauty or art appreciation is some sort of modern day trait. Henry Ford said, "you can have any color Model A as long as it's…
Sarah, you could explain Twitter that way, but why? It does seem a stretch to use a metaphor about a metaphor to explain a simple human need for connection and community.<br />
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Scott, I grok that!<br />
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Randy, I find it disingenuous that Pink would claim to be a "left-brainer." Sorry. Doesn't compute.<br />
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Jeff, I agree. I also think it's insulting to previous generations to say that beauty or art appreciation is some sort of modern day trait. Henry Ford said, "you can have any color Model A as long as it's black" meant that he could economize on a standardized product, not that people didn't want a green car. Rich people could (and can) afford beautiful objects created and customized for their pleasure. Poor people couldn't (and can't).<br />
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All that said, I still believe that placing labels on people, especially children, is not good educational policy, whether based on pop-psych books, custom, or government mandate. PS...that would be "Symphony"…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-04-18:649749:Comment:1323122008-04-18T17:35:17.341ZRandy Rivershttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/rrivers
PS...that would be "Symphony" in Mr. Pink's parlance...
PS...that would be "Symphony" in Mr. Pink's parlance... I remember a great deal of "p…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-04-18:649749:Comment:1323102008-04-18T17:34:04.996ZRandy Rivershttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/rrivers
I remember a great deal of "po poing" of John Naisbitt's work MegaTrends back in the early '80s, too. His work was based on "data" (which a great deal of proved out over time) and so is a great deal of Mr. Pink's...we're still not very good at understanding the value of data and deep analysis of that data in our field, yet.
I remember a great deal of "po poing" of John Naisbitt's work MegaTrends back in the early '80s, too. His work was based on "data" (which a great deal of proved out over time) and so is a great deal of Mr. Pink's...we're still not very good at understanding the value of data and deep analysis of that data in our field, yet. Interesting point. I just wro…tag:www.classroom20.com,2008-04-18:649749:Comment:1322922008-04-18T15:59:59.086ZSarah Hanawaldhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/SarahHanawald
Interesting point. I just wrote a <a href="http://littechlearning.blogspot.com/">blog entry</a> that references Mr. Pink. I've skimmed his book--which is what I think it merits from me. However, administrators seem to eat this stuff up. Maybe because they can afford the conferences with $20,000 speakers? So, I find it extremely helpful to cite Mr. Pink, Alan November, etc when I'm explaining why I want to do something. The "in the trenches" experts aren't as well known. It's not really the…
Interesting point. I just wrote a <a href="http://littechlearning.blogspot.com/">blog entry</a> that references Mr. Pink. I've skimmed his book--which is what I think it merits from me. However, administrators seem to eat this stuff up. Maybe because they can afford the conferences with $20,000 speakers? So, I find it extremely helpful to cite Mr. Pink, Alan November, etc when I'm explaining why I want to do something. The "in the trenches" experts aren't as well known. It's not really the administrator's fault. They have to keep up in every field--I know one who has just had a big lesson in nutrition and health code requirements (not where I work, I hasten to add). So naturally, they gravitate towards the more splashy "experts."<br />
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I've been thinking about whether I could explain twitter as Daniel Pink style lesson in empathy. A stretch?<br />
Sarah