Does anyone have any suggestions for language translation on Ning?

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Permalink Reply by Vincent Mespoulet on January 8, 2008 at 7:34pm

We have to find widget without frameset...
An other way: for the environmental project "Save the Planet", we can put common pages on your site even if your students try to work in english in School Beyond the Walls...

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Permalink Reply by Sue Palmer on January 8, 2008 at 9:03pm

Hi Vincent,

I saw your message on the other site. I thought I would ask here if anyone had any ideas as well. Our foreign language students (french) will probably write in both French and English. The History students will write in English. The translator will be helpful for our students to be able to read the content you have on the site. You have so much great information which will be of interest for conversation and exchange.

We can certainly put anything on MasteryMaze for use by all students. I can open you as well as an administrator. We can also create a separate page in the subjects section. Once I see what you have in mind, I can suggest how to best put it in the Maze. I would suggest that we have an exchange on both sites. Let's see what we come up with!

You can email me at masterymaze@gmail.com if it is easier. Perhaps we can get some help here from our Classroom 2.0 friends!

Thanks.

Sue P

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Permalink Reply by Vincent Mespoulet on January 9, 2008 at 3:08am

same problem, framesets are blocked on ning...
However we can use "Translate a block of text" with both Babel Fish and Google Translate (Link in a blank target...)

Demo with this page in french about Che Guevara on my site... ;-)

Translation with Google Translate (IS IT UNDERSTANDABLE FOR YOU ?)

Learning how to think about an image # 1 - Image versus Imagination - Che Guevara in representations ... Where you will discover how Che became the cache-sex capitalism he has fought all his life.
That discussion Image versus Imagination, launched by Vincenzina that gave me the idea for this post. Vincenzina expressed with the idea that because the abundance of images could dry up our faculties of imagination and two of my students Yanis and Benjamin tried to think clearly about what she meant ...

Let's look at this first image:



It represents a character, which has become an icon, ie a legendary whose image has travelled the world and that everybody knows. The elements that make it possible to identify it is his beard and especially his Cuban cigars (in fact, the "Che" was Argentine ...). Our mind works, when one thinks of "cigar" we think about "Cuba" when one thinks of "beard and hair," thinks "revolutionary ...

This is Ernesto Che Guevara, the Cuban revolutionary necessarily you know in the aspect:



This image was reproduced billions of times, the face of Che was immediately identified from the United States to China, Iceland to South Africa. It is everywhere, and I know dozens of college students who have a representation of this picture on their bags, their kit, their clothes, most often in a form-screened with a red background ...



The question you have to ask is why this image has become an icon ...

Again everything has meaning: the red background, is the revolution. The beret is the armed struggle. The beard and hair is the guerrilla ...

But there are also other elements that are not visible, but that can be seen and that we know without thinking. The face is beautiful and serious, it symbolizes youth, a youth freedom-loving and justice. More importantly also eternal youth since Che Guevara was murdered when he was not 40 years. The Che can not age, before he died ... So his eternal youth is the ideal of justice and of the revolt still afresh ...

As our imagination works so strange, there is another image, even deeper as part of our thoughts. This helps us to understand is what happens in the mind of a photographer when he enters a topic. Without thinking, the photographer can add another idea.

Now look at this picture:



It represents the body of Che Guevara was captured and executed by the Bolivian army on Oct. 9, 1967. It is never pleasant to look at a corpse, but something has fascinated the photographer. There is another picture of the corpse of Che where instead of seeing from the side, you can see with your feet in the foreground and the head in the background.



And when you see this picture, we can not help thinking about this painting by Mantegna, a painter of the Italian Renaissance, carried out between 1480 and 1490:



We find the same elements as the corpse of Che: lying on a table, air asleep and peaceful, hair, a beard, stripped to the waist, with holes wrists (the "Che" has an almost identical injury on the front arm in the photo requests for later) ...

Che Guevara, we think therefore also to Jesus Christ ... Two men died a violent death, in full youth. Two men in their own way revolutionary. Two men who love justice. Two men who sacrificed for their causes. Two men who have been made gods ...

When the photographer takes the picture, he did not think necessarily that reproduces the table Mantegna. It does not necessarily either the table of Mantegna. But this image was burned into his subconscious ...

It is quite amazing how the representation of the corpse of "Che" triggers as a reference with masterp

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