Chatlog from Will Richardson's TAIS08 session on RSS--from ustream.tv

This is up and online and embedded at my blogpost at http://scottmerrick.net. I'm posting the text chat here so Will and others can see the robust conversation that went on in the backchat. Life is good:).

10:14 LucyGray : Is there a web site for this conference?
10:15 scottmerrick : yeah hang on
10:15 kpruitt : learn how to use a reader
10:15 kpruitt : RSS
10:16 tsakshaug : learn how to filter info is the answer?
10:18 scottmerrick : google TAIS Memphis
10:18 fsinfo : see you all later
10:18 scottmerrick : locking down until 1:20!
10:18 tsakshaug : lunch!?
10:18 LucyGray : thanks, scott
01:21 scottmerrick : we're heeeeeree
01:21 cfisher : the pd fest continues in nashville!
01:21 cfisher : just left LParisi's classroom and now am here
01:21 cfisher : hi will
01:21 scottmerrick : yay clarence is here!
01:22 sharonbetts : Man Will makes the rounds - bet there's no snow inTN
01:22 cfisher : not yet
01:22 cfisher : fly tomorrow
01:22 cfisher : Ill ustream that!
01:22 Brumbaugh : Hiya Lucy...
01:22 sharonbetts : this is rss session, right?
01:22 scottmerrick : RSS
01:22 scottmerrick : According to Will
01:23 EricLanghorst : Will - Hello from Liberty, Missouri - watching you during my plan period
01:23 cfisher : this entire day has been a pd fest on usteam!
01:23 sharonbetts : @cfisher - you said it - didn't get much done for work though
01:24 EricLanghorst : Scott - Thanks for UStreaming this!
01:24 scottmerrick : yw!
01:24 Brumbaugh : Did anyone see the two youtube videos that Wesley Fryer posted yesterday about blogging?
01:24 cfisher : notice he lost the suit jacket since this AM. the casual look
01:24 sharonbetts : hope to use rss to bring school website news to front of district page
01:24 skajder : Thanks for UStreaming - we're watching from a doc. class at VA Tech
01:25 sharonbetts : @Brumbaugh - got any links - going to be PDing blogging this summer
01:25 scottmerrick : http://weblogged.wikispaces.com for stuff
01:26 Brumbaugh : http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/03/27/blogs-wikis-district-polices-walled-gardens-and-the-open-web/
01:26 EricLanghorst : great room!
01:26 scottmerrick : :)
01:26 scottmerrick : backchat is welcome! btw
01:26 sharonbetts : @Brumbaugh- thanks - got it bookmarked
01:26 scottmerrick : thanks Brum
01:26 Brumbaugh : there is also the commoncraft show videos on Blogging and RSS readers
01:27 kpruitt : I love how we all know what words and ideas are tough to understand...we start to explain veryyyy slowlyyyyy
01:27 sharonbetts : Got Crafts stuff - good resources
01:27 thekyleguy : Hey folks. Thanks for the link Clarence. SHouldn't you be packing?
01:27 sharonbetts : what did we do before ustream, twitter, etc?
01:28 njtechteacher : I stumbled on the things I was lucky enough to find on my own.
01:28 scottmerrick : lots of googling and lots of missing great learning
01:28 sharonbetts : I love being able to be "in the room" with Will or David or Vicki nearly 24/7
01:28 thekyleguy : message boards, IM & listservs
01:29 scottmerrick : lol at "toe in the water" -- extended analogy from last session
01:29 sharonbetts : any of your teachers use rss to monitor their students' blogs?
01:29 thekyleguy : Who is this presentation to?
01:29 scottmerrick : TN Ass'n of Independent Schools
01:29 Brumbaugh : I ready the blogs of the students in our Global Comm class
01:29 skajder : @sharonbetts - is there any other way to really m anage them?
01:29 scottmerrick : will get a url for ya
01:29 sharonbetts : TAIS- TN
01:29 thekyleguy : RSS = Tivo
01:29 cfisher : @thekyleguy truck is packed and ready to roar down the road in 30 minutes
01:29 cfisher : flight tomorrow at noon but need to drive to Winnipeg tonight
01:30 scottmerrick : showing his google reader
01:30 sharonbetts : @skajder we use 21classes, but those that don't
01:30 cfisher : @sharonbetts I monitor al of my student blogs using RSS
01:30 kpruitt : darn still can't get into Will reader
01:30 thekyleguy : @cfisher Right on. Taking the whole family? Have you been before
01:30 fsinfo : hello again
01:30 sharonbetts : my google reader is even worse than my desk
01:30 scottmerrick : haha kpruitt i'll send you the password
01:30 ransomtech : I use netnewswire on my computer... and love it!
01:30 bcdtech : I use rss to monitor student work as well
01:31 kpruitt : add my blog to his reader :)
01:31 cfisher : all 4 of us are going. nope, it one plave we've never been. really looking forward to the break
01:31 kpruitt : lol
01:31 scottmerrick : anybody remember David Jakes a couple NECCs ago on how Google will take over the world?
01:31 Brumbaugh : Has anyone used Google Presentations in a real time setting with the backchat embedded?
01:31 njtechteacher : @sharonbetts At least nothing falls out of the reader - desks are different that way :)
01:31 bcdtech : I wish I could just press a button to mark my desk as "all read"
01:31 thekyleguy : @scottmerrick haven't they already?
01:31 sharonbetts : @njreader - easier to clean off too
01:31 njtechteacher : true
01:32 Brumbaugh : there is that function in Google Reader now
01:32 kpruitt : I star alot of things on my desk too
01:32 kpruitt : never get to them either
01:32 thekyleguy : @cfisher I bet you are pumped, we went to honolulu & Maui for honeymoon 2 summers ago
01:32 sharonbetts : @Brumbaugh - used google presentations with kids and teachers PD - worked great
01:32 sharonbetts : @krpuitt - you just reminded me to checkmy stars - ha
01:32 thekyleguy : Hey @njtech How you keeping?
01:32 scottmerrick : @sharonbetts how did you get kids logged in? create accounts for them?
01:32 Brumbaugh : @sharonbetts - Thanks... have used them in a presentation, but haven't used the back channel feature
01:33 njtechteacher : @kyle great - last day of break
01:33 sharonbetts : @scottmerrick - yes gave them accounts
01:33 scottmerrick : the +1 hack?
01:33 VanishingPoint : Hello all!
01:33 Brumbaugh : We created Google Apps for your domain accounts for the students
01:34 skajder : I didn't catch the name of the blogger he is referring to...
01:34 scottmerrick : howdy bp
01:34 sharonbetts : Gotta add some of Wills references to my reader - is their a limit?
01:34 scottmerrick : Danahh Boyd
01:34 bcdtech : danah boyd
01:34 Brumbaugh : she writes a great blog....
01:34 skajder : Thanks.
01:35 thekyleguy : Howard Rhiengold http://www.smartmobs.com/
01:35 cfisher : hi everyone
01:35 thekyleguy : Follow Clarence http://remoteaccess.typepad.com/remote_access/
01:36 Brumbaugh : <--- wishes he could get his blog on Will's list.... LOL
01:36 sharonbetts : I follow Clarence - but not Danah , she is now added
01:36 * scottmerrick ditto lol
01:36 VanishingPoint : Danah Boyd http://www.danah.org/
01:36 cfisher : Danah is awesome
01:36 scottmerrick : Will needs to publish out his feed list
01:36 scmorgan : I always check Will's shared posts in GR. I get great reads that way
01:36 thekyleguy : Did Danah use to have a different blog name?
01:37 thekyleguy : figured it out Blog = apophenia
01:37 Brumbaugh : http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/
01:37 shareski : just mark all read
01:37 jschinker : You don't read every story in the newspaper, either.
01:38 ransomtech : Yes... I have gotten over reader's guilt, too. Thank goodnes!!
01:38 sharonbetts : Twitter took away my Reader guilt
01:38 scottmerrick : That's his balance mechanism, what i was saying we need to learn to help teach our kids to seek for themselves
01:38 shareski : Cheater
01:38 scottmerrick : Twitter's good for that
01:38 ransomtech : Yes!
01:38 scmorgan : that's so true
01:38 thekyleguy : the good stuff rises to the top
01:38 scmorgan : It always comes back
01:38 sharonbetts : funny he mentioned it popped up on twitter - does come up
01:38 ransomtech : But, you won't get the finder's fee, Will!
01:39 kpruitt : So should will be paying us a percentage?
01:39 ransomtech : Great idea
01:39 kpruitt : I didnt know I was a research assistan
01:39 kpruitt : :)
01:39 ransomtech : It is like we are in this research assistants network...
01:40 scottmerrick : haha
01:40 kpruitt : I suppose I wouldn't want that idea to backfire on me someday
01:40 bcdtech : I like the newspaper analogy- I have no newspaper guilt- but do feel guilty about all the info in the reader
01:41 scottmerrick : @bctech -- don't worry, it'l pass :)
01:41 dwaltman : teach kids to skim, scan?
01:41 tsakshaug : analogy of tv channels-what do you want to watch?
01:41 bcdtech : @scott- sure hope so!
01:41 njtechteacher : My favorite is "friends shared items" - I read those first usually
01:41 scottmerrick : ooh going into tags--i sooo need this
01:41 DaveBriccetti : scott, the audio is distorted, maybe lower the gain a bit?
01:42 dwaltman : tags=newspaper clippings
01:42 scottmerrick : "Dewey doesn't work here anymore."
01:42 bcdtech : @tsakshaug- live in the sticks- ony one channel:)
01:42 kpruitt : no
01:42 scottmerrick : notes "Everything is miscellaneous"
01:42 dwaltman : did he talk about rss feeds for tags?
01:42 ransomtech : Just learned about kwout from kathy schrock in Twitter... very cool "clipping" tool
01:42 sharonbetts : so much information -filtering, sorting, prioritizing is so important
01:43 cfisher : tags = the future of users organizing info
01:43 ransomtech : http://kwout.com/
01:43 bcdtech : like the feature in diigo to make your tag library
01:43 sharonbetts : @ransomtech - also just did the bookmarklet for kwout today
01:43 sharonbetts : looking at http://sliderocket.com
01:43 dwaltman : tagging sorts...what about prioritizing...how do you guys do this?
01:43 kpruitt : think about how google is using tags to build 3D models of landmarks
01:43 ransomtech : Seems to work very well so far
01:44 thekyleguy : @sharon I didnt get into sliderocket early enough
01:44 kpruitt : SR looks slick sharon
01:44 thekyleguy : waiting for invite
01:44 sharonbetts : @thekyleguy it should be open soon- very cool
01:44 dwaltman : zefrank color wars flickr tags
01:45 kpruitt : you can add a widget to blog
01:45 dwaltman : i guess tag clouds priortize
01:45 scottmerrick : will type that url here
01:46 kpruitt : so..of the 8000 he has not read, which will I read :)
01:46 scottmerrick : http://tinyurl.com/2ttotp
01:46 kpruitt : lol
01:46 scottmerrick : lol @kpruit
01:46 shareski : publish...then filter
01:47 sharonbetts : Maybe I will prioritize his above the 5000 unread in mine
01:47 sharonbetts : playing and learning today - http://toufee.com updated too
01:47 kpruitt : @sharon I will send you my 2000 to add to it
01:47 EricLanghorst : good bye - 8th period is starting and I think they want me to teach history today!
01:48 dwaltman : confirmation bias
01:48 scmorgan : Such a good point Will
01:48 dwaltman : stager?
01:48 sharonbetts : @kpruitt lol
01:48 cfisher : Enter Tom Hoffman
01:48 thekyleguy : echo echo?
01:48 sharonbetts : I do find myself in an echo chamber - but I read Tom H, too
01:48 thekyleguy : Tom Hoffman link?
01:48 bcdtech : I feel like I'm in an echo chamber online, but at school, flying solo with tech
01:49 sharonbetts : I also read Gary occassionally
01:49 VanishingPoint : Have fun Eric!
01:49 thekyleguy : isn't it an odd paradox bcdtech?
01:49 scottmerrick : comin' at ya
01:49 sharonbetts : not many outside of my group in my twitter followers
01:49 shareski : http://www.tuttlesvc.org
01:49 cfisher : http://tuttlesvc.teacherhosting.com/blog/blosxom.cgi
01:50 kpruitt : thats why I picked on avertising and market folks
01:50 VanishingPoint : Hey Dean, I am blogging about you right now! I can send advanced if you want
01:50 kpruitt : they are in direct comp for kids attention
01:50 scottmerrick : important element in the quest for balance
01:50 thekyleguy : Thanks Dean & Clarence, I recognize it I think I subscribe & tend to ignore
01:50 VanishingPoint : Er that was @shareski
01:51 kpruitt : shhh they are listening
01:51 sharonbetts : anyone find anything they like better than google reader
01:51 dwaltman : google reader needs to have a tag cloud option
01:51 tsakshaug : time to go home--bye ya'll
01:52 sharonbetts : impressed at ustream today -really smooth
01:52 scottmerrick : byeee tsakshaug!
01:52 cfisher : Just so you all know, its 25C in Honolulu right now and nothing but 28s in the forecast
01:52 thekyleguy : my reader's index needs to be cleaned up
01:52 cfisher : T - minus 10 minutes
01:52 bcdtech : it's almost stopped snowing here
01:53 thekyleguy : ;-) jealous. Go pack. Were you able to find sunscreen in Snow Lake?
01:53 sharonbetts : guess I will add rss to my summer training again.
01:53 scottmerrick : marks that quote about the ex-student
01:53 cfisher : nope. not in WPG either
01:53 kpruitt : Ken Pruitt?
01:53 cfisher : thats OK, I burn anyway
01:53 kpruitt : I eat icecream
01:53 scottmerrick : lol @vegan ice cream
01:54 kpruitt : mmmm
01:54 shareski : Will's always got to throw in a health food thought ;)
01:54 shareski : See if he'll search for kale shakes
01:54 kpruitt : lol
01:54 cfisher : we'll see about ribs and him in San Antonio at NECC
01:54 shareski : BBQ ribs and a Kale Shake ummmmmm
01:55 kpruitt : get the pic of Jakes eating nachos up there
01:55 sharonbetts : @cfisher - ribs for me, too
01:55 kpruitt : people missed vegan icecream
01:55 cfisher : and beer too
01:55 scottmerrick : diggin' the strategies for read/filtering the reader
01:55 kpruitt : no
01:56 sharonbetts : oh man - haven't been to technorati for months
01:56 shareski : @VanishingPoint....re: Diigo?
01:56 cfisher : I like him tying technorati and google reader together
01:56 kpruitt : you need a PC
01:56 cfisher : a good strategy to show people
01:57 sharonbetts : good connection for showing how to analyze info -
01:57 kpruitt : this is great
01:57 kpruitt : I could see it with kids....same way
01:57 VanishingPoint : @shareski LOL no putting out a post on Professional (social) Networking via twitter
01:58 njtechteacher : I have to play this back later, missing important info, practicing Spanish with son.
01:58 thekyleguy : @shareski are you employed by Diigo?
01:58 cfisher : I use technorati and RSS with the kids in my class, but they get overwhelmed with new sources
01:58 sharonbetts : @cfisher - teachers get even more overwhelmed at PDs
01:58 VanishingPoint : @shareski I thought of you on two levels. Your podcast with Clay (I was listening to it while I slid into someone yesterday, and 140 Char or less post
01:58 thekyleguy : maybe email marketing director? ;)
01:58 shareski : I heard that!
01:59 scottmerrick : lol
01:59 scottmerrick : am i reliable or what?
02:00 sharonbetts : passionate writers - good catch phrase
02:00 cfisher : time to go
02:00 thekyleguy : aloha @cfisher
02:00 sharonbetts : wishing no flight delays - enjoy @fisher
02:00 shareski : @VanishingPoint...certainly a lot to uncover....been listening to some great discussion about twitter on the last three TWIT podcasts...slide into someone? ouch
02:02 * scottmerrick copies backchat to date and pastes into notepad--lost the last session chat :(
02:02 VanishingPoint : @shareski yeah low speed in a snow storm... there were 3 accidents in 5 min at the same location. oof... I was even paying attention when it happened...
02:03 kpruitt : would it be a cop out to play this when I have to do RSS workshop
02:03 kpruitt : I'll ustream it
02:03 sharonbetts : @kpruitt - that is what its for - stream it and sit back
02:04 kpruitt : ustream my teachers wathcing will's old ustream
02:04 sharonbetts : world connections :)
02:04 scottmerrick : That'd be a GREAT project for a media class
02:05 kpruitt : current events class
02:05 kpruitt : yes
02:05 thekyleguy : @kpruitt it would work if he was streaming his desktop
02:05 dhammond : My RSS reader is ready to explode :-(
02:05 scottmerrick : haha
02:05 kpruitt : good point kyle
02:06 sharonbetts : I wonder when browser bookmarking will disappear?
02:07 bcdtech : I still have lots of teachers who don't bookmark at all, or just save to favorites,, it'll be awhile
02:07 sharonbetts : love Buzka for elementary project resources
02:08 scottmerrick : a smart browser dev crew would abandon it and incorporate a social bkmkg tool
02:08 thekyleguy : Thanks for the stream @scott & the chat everyone else.
02:09 DaveBriccetti : Audio very distorted when he speaks loudly. Gain too high?
02:09 scottmerrick : yw kyle:) this has been fun, only 6 min. left
02:09 thekyleguy : oh ok, I will stick around
02:09 Shupester : We are using RSS to keep a running list of student achievements on our campus.
02:10 gtanner : hi scott - greetings from usn bus off
02:10 scottmerrick : http://del.icio.us/willrich
02:10 Shupester : If you want me to shoot you an example just let me know.
02:10 scottmerrick : would love that
02:11 bcdtech : we use Read media on our site for stuff about the school that has hit the papers. Kids come from 3 states.
02:11 fsinfo : he's not doing diigio yet?
02:11 Shupester : feed://stone.ms.brevard.k12.fl.us/html/files/SSR.xml
02:11 gtanner : this is completely relevant to next weeks peabody presentation. I want to watch the entire thing. will it be archived?
02:11 scottmerrick : will ask
02:11 kpruitt : diigo was behaving badky today
02:11 scottmerrick : hi genie!
02:12 fsinfo : just figuring it out
02:12 Shupester : http://stone.ms.brevard.k12.fl.us/html/
02:12 gtanner : yo hello
02:12 kpruitt : we broke it
02:12 fsinfo : doesn't want to take my photo
02:12 bcdtech : Love diigo, but the hype is slowing it down
02:12 thekyleguy : Best RSS presentation I have watched. Tied together tagging & subscribing, technorati, reader, del.icio.us
02:12 kpruitt : deego
02:12 fsinfo : LOL
02:12 VanishingPoint : ooh @shareski wake up! Diigo...
02:12 scottmerrick : lol thank you Kpruitt
02:12 sharonbetts : I don't really get diigo -
02:12 kpruitt : that was right from deego folks
02:13 bcdtech : thought the woman who runs it said deego the other day;0)
02:13 kpruitt : I worry its too connected
02:13 fsinfo : ok some say diiiiigo and some say deeeeego which is right?
02:13 shareski : I've been corresponding with the founders a few times today...they aren't happy with me
02:13 sharonbetts : its been down all day
02:13 fsinfo : its up now
02:13 fsinfo : I think
02:13 VanishingPoint : @shareski lol... do you feel the power you hold?
02:14 kpruitt : research is personal at some point and I am not concerned with what others say
02:14 thekyleguy : they should give you a free tshirt or mug or something
02:14 shareski : @vanishingpoint....talk to my wife
02:14 kpruitt : sorry
02:14 scottmerrick : showing pageflakes.com
02:14 bcdtech : love my netvibes
02:14 sharonbetts : wow - now he is adding starterpages - great tie it all together
02:15 sharonbetts : iGoogle
02:15 VanishingPoint : @shareski... oh well that... no male holds that kind of power ;0)
02:15 VanishingPoint : just ask my wife
02:15 sharonbetts : A new startpage for each topic / project
02:15 VanishingPoint : @shareski and now she is making it public... pacifiersandprada.blogspot.com
02:16 sharonbetts : He got some of the same comments as I do from teachers - do we just overwhelm?
02:17 bcdtech : overwhelm- yes, but next step is to have someone in the school to turn to, to just choose 1 thing- try it
02:18 shareski : tags can never be standardized...thus the miscellaneous nature of tagging
02:18 adrianbruce : greetings from Oz - 6am ish :)
02:18 shareski : and that's a good thing, in many ways
02:18 shareski : why do people want it private?
02:18 scottmerrick : that true? can one set up a private "group" in diigo?
02:18 bcdtech : but with diigo you can set tag library for your kids
02:18 kpruitt : THere has to be a guided practice with this
02:19 kpruitt : for my folks anyway
02:19 shareski : isnt' that for very few things? I would thing the vast majority should be public
02:19 njtechteacher : It is overwhelming when you hear it in one shot. We get it dripped on us slowly every day.
02:19 scottmerrick : lol
02:19 scottmerrick : thanks ya'll
02:19 sharonbetts : thanks scott
02:19 njtechteacher : Thank you!
02:19 scottmerrick : hitting the archive button
02:19 bcdtech : thamks Scott